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    1 year ago

    And have actual control over the OS.

    Seriously, if Apple decides an app is too old, then it flat out doesn’t work. No way to prevent updating either unless it is basically without internet.

    Linuxians like to complain about not being able to control Windows, but Mac is like a hundred times worse in that regard. Not to mention ads to all those Apple software on there.

    • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Apple: “Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that’s only worth 1000!”

      Me: “But it still runs?”

      Apple: “Does it, though?”

      Me: “Well not anymore… Thanks.”

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        1 year ago

        Not to defend Apple, but doesn’t windows 11 demand you buy new hardware for it to be installed? Something about a TPM?

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          1 year ago

          Does Windows still allow your applications to function update after update if you decide to stick with Windows 10? Yes. Can you just stay on W10 and expect things to keep working? Also yes.

          I don’t have to worry about the newest version of Adobe Premiere not being compatible with this older version of iOS, oops now our promo team and our production team aren’t able to share their files because one bought newer Macs and now has an upgraded version of Adobe that Catalina doesn’t support unless you also buy new machines that are allowed to update through to Monterey.

          Apple is fine for home use, but as someone who works operations side IT and has to constantly perform network workarounds to get their equipment functional in a commercial environment, fuck Apple and their “We did the thinking for you uwu™️” nonsense.

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            1 year ago

            And OMG, Apples business support is absolute horse shit

            Device management? Good fucking luck. Setting up iOS device management is by far the most painful, migraine inducing, poorly thought out, full of the most asinine restrictions process I’ve ever seen in my life.

            Setting up Oracle on-prem software is a cake walk compared to Apples shit.

            Windows is a business OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with business (poorly executed) “features”

            Apple: “It just works!*”

            *As long as it’s not a business feature

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          1 year ago

          Yeah you need an Intel 8th gen or a ryzen processor in order to use it without a workaround. Something from the last 6 years.

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            1 year ago

            You don’t need 8th Gen. It’s just that 7th gen specifically doesn’t work. I’m pretty sure older Intel chips are fine. TPM isn’t on your CPU.

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              1 year ago

              Correct, I was trying to keep it simple but yes more specifically you need a TPM 2.0 capable system

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        1 year ago

        They update Macs for a good 8 years or so, which isn’t that bad really. Then you can often just install newer versions with community tools after that.

        Edit: I haven’t had one in a few years, apparently that’s not quite true recently as they’re trying to drop x86 support and move everything to ARM

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          11 months ago

          That’s more of an architecture shift as opposed to we don’t support it because fuck you, also Rosetta means most x86 Mac apps will be able to run on the m-series chips.

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      1 year ago

      What on earth are you on about? You’re completely in control of updates and you can enable the root account and do whatever you want. It’s still UNIX.

      Are you talking about iOS/iPadOS? macOS is nothing like this and I have no idea what you’re on about.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah I think most people have experienced an iPad or iPhone but not a Mac so they assume it’s the same walled garden. What they don’t realise is Mac has been a solid choice for power users, developers and creators of all varieties for over 10 years, this means the community and app selection is honestly ridiculously good.

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      11 months ago

      The only place I’ve ever seen ads on my MacBook is in the App Store, the iCloud section of settings and on Apple’s website, all of which it makes sense for the adverts to exist. Oh wait I may have seen one as a precursor to a YouTube video but sans ad-blocker that is standing regards of OS.