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A substantial portion of the country is calling for a return to monarchy and the enshrinement of the Trump dynasty. We’re so far from what the founders intended it isn’t even funny
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A surprise, to be sure. But a welcome one.
One can only hope this starts an avalanche of other states following through with the same thing. It would be glorious for the GOP to be scrambling for a candidate after Trump is off the ballot in half the states. The fracturing of the party would be amazing.
They won’t need to, the Supreme Court will just slap these down when it gets there. Remember the fascists have packed the courts
While you are likely right, I need to keep my positivity as much as possible where and when I can. Hope for the best but brace for the worst.
Haha get fucked traitor
I personally don’t believe Donald Trump should be the next president.
However, is anybody concerned that the existing government is telling you who you cannot vote for?
This seems like it could lead to problems down the road.
Nah. Because the constitution says a traitorous insurrectionist doesn’t belong in government. I agree with the constitution 100%
I agree it’s probably true, but he hasn’t been convinced of insurrection (yet), has he? The sixth amendment to the Constitution guarantees a fair trial, no?
So the sitting government decided their opponent is guilty of “The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government”, and then told you and everyone else you’re not allowed to vote for him. Could that not be applied to all opposition?
That’s not concerning? What if it’s switched next time?
‘But what if Nazis treated you like a Nazi?’ is never a meaningful argument.
It’s the sort of thing you scold small children with when they’re figuring out theory-of-mind. It’s not a reason to hem and haw about consequences for outright fascism.
The 14th does NOT say ANYWHERE that the traitor has to be convicted.
We all saw it live, the desecration of the very core of American values. We the people do not accept traitors in our government.
I know you think you’re slick “arguing” in bad faith. We see right through your sad tricks.
Also, lemme know next time a democratic politician tries to overthrow democracy. I’ll apply the same rules to them instantly.
The government also says I can’t vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger for president, because he’s constitutionally ineligible for that office. The reasons someone can be ineligible for the presidency seem to be fair, and accurately enforcing them isn’t a slippery slope.
The 14th amendment section 3 lays out that someone who takes an oath of office and then engages in insurrection is ineligible to hold office unless Congress removes that ineligibility, and this seems to be what Trump has done.
If anything, if he’s truly ineligible, not removing him from ballots is the thing that should be concerning. Maybe SCOTUS will deem him actually eligible, but not starting that process seems to be the wrong thing to do if you believe he’s actually ineligible.
Hmm. Dictatorship if he wins, Democracy with a shitty slippery slope argument if he loses.
This seems like it could lead to problems down the road.
Yep. Shitty slippery slope argument. Fucking check.
It’s not really a shitty slippery slope. How would you feel when it would’ve been the democrat candidate that was removed from ballots?
If that theoretical candidate had done what Trump did then I’d e perfectly happy with their removal.
It’d be fine to remove him from the ballot if he had committed treason. But so far, nothing like that has happened.
He’s not liked, but that’s not enough to prevent him from running.
What if they removed Biden in this election?
It would have been be fine to remove him from the ballot if he had committed treason. But so far, nothing like that has happened.
He’s not liked, but that’s not enough to prevent him from running
On what grounds? Has he violated the Constitution in any way?
