We all know that Cybertrucks have had a less-thank-lackluster release. Not many of these trucks could have been made yet.
Nonetheless, video-after-video of these beasts keep getting stuck in the mud snow in this case, now with snowy weather blanketing part of the north-east. Jalopnik is blaming tires, which sounds like a possibly valid issue.
But given the failures in the mud last month, I’m now wondering how much of this is perhaps a bad traction-control algorithm, or other feature of the cybertruck? Maybe its just the shear mass alone that is wrecking the traction.
In either case: the Cybertruck has no staying power in mud or snow. I can’t imagine this going well in any offroading event or other similar trucking duty. If the cybertruck loses traction in these simple snow cases, there’s no way it could be used as a plow for example.
Article says the tires are probably optimized for efficiency…
Which makes it even worse their range is so bad.
Put actual truck tires on so you can use it as a truck, and range is going to plummet
Actual truck tires won’t fix the low polygon wank tank disaster that is known as the cybertruck. Sorry.
It won’t, there’s lots of other issues.
But those tires means it literally can’t function off pavement.
I have zero idea why you’re acting like I was defending it tho
Classic Lemmy, just forget them
Hahahahaha, fucking idiot that Muskrat is, so is anyone who bought this POS
People want new things and New ideas and they habr the money to risk it. I’m sure those people know just about as much of trucks as you do
Dont need to know jack shit about vehicles if you really know about Musk. His ideas are dogshit and he is a pathological liar. Or as people say “Over promose and under deliver”
Hold on, I thought the truck was a joke, a publicity stunt like the robot… Did people actually pay real money for one? PS1 nostalgia?
Elon’s Folly sure doesn’t seem to have any specific niche it performa in a except drawing attention.
It’s too heavy. Tires don’t matter much if it’s just sinking like a lead brick.
Probably because they’re pieces of trash that way a bajillion tons.
i think it has too much staying power in snow or mud, and not enough going power
I wonder why Ford never designed a cyber truck…
They ughhh didn’t ughh have the ugh ugh mental ughh fortitude ught that ugh the ugh Musk ugh has ughh… Right.
That’s a stupid truck, and it probably has a billion flaws in addition to poor traction control.
But that’s more snow than anyone should be trying to drive through. It’s at least 18 inches of uncompressed powder, judging from the tire tracks which are probably compacted ice.
Snow tires might help, but that should be plowed or shoveled before you drive over it.
but that should be plowed
Pickup Trucks are traditionally the vehicle you hook up snowplows to.
Cybertruck fails at one of the most basic, and assumed, pickup-truck duties. Driving through the snow reliably. Now yes, bigger trucks (F250 or F350) are used, but F150 class (roughly where Cybertruck competes in) can handle light-duty plowing. But it has to be able to drive in the snow reliably first.
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There’s literally footage of a Toyota Tundra towing the Cybertruck in the snow here. Toyota Tundra. Nothing special or crazy here.
Cybertruck (possibly due to the tires) is failing here. Now hopefully we can see some news and get to the bottom of this bad performance, but its not looking good right now. I recognize that snow can be complex and a bunch of little decisions mess things up. But as other commenters put out, extra-hard tires are better for efficiency (which is horrifying, as Cybertruck’s range has turned out to be awful as well). So it looks like this thing is a piece of shit all around.
Upgrade the tires to something with more snow-traction, and bam, there goes your “efficiency”. Cybertruck will likely lose another dozen miles or more from its already abysmal 250ish mile range.
Cybertruck just has awful specs all around, any changes now to be more practical or pragmatic (ex: with better snow tires) are going to hamper its specs.
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Put the right equipment on the Tesla and it wouldn’t get stuck either.
But then it won’t have 254 mile range anymore either, as the right snow equipment is less efficient.
There’s no free lunch. Snow traction somewhat contradicts efficiency when it comes to tires.
EDIT: 254 mile Cybertruck was the RWD version IIRC, you need to spend $100,000+ to get 4WD. This thing’s a pretty hilarious joke by truck standards.
It sounds like you dont get we have to figure out electric trucks. If the elecrrix F150 handles this better, then great! I hope that’s what you’re saying here, but it doesnt sound lije it. I also have my doubt that Ford is better on kwh/kg and in the end that’s what matters, but havent looked closely enough to say for sure and will be happy to be wrong.
Humanity has the choice of figuring out how to get off fossil fuels or death.
Accepting that death is the better option because it gets better snow performance at this early foray into electric trucks is the opinion of a fool.
That’s cool and all but there’s snow that needs to be plowed. Its winter season where I live.
F150 Lightning and Rivian have demonstrated all-terrain features. Cybertruck is failing because of poor traction-control software, crappy OEM tires, and absurdly overweight design.
I also have my doubt that Ford is better on kwh/kg and in the end that’s what matters
Tesla just buys cells from China or Panasonic like everyone else. No one is doing chemical work on this in USA. Its all Korean (LG Chem), Japanese (Panasonic), or Chinese (BYD).
From a car-manufacturer perspective, the only attribute that determines kwh-per-mile is weight and aerodynamics, both of which utterly suck on the Cybertruck. Chemical advancements are being pushed by Toyota for Silicon-batteries and a few other manufacturers for Sodium batteries… and BYD / China for LiFePo4 batteries.
But Tesla’s chemical tech is non-existent. Its all overseas commodities these days. Heck, it always was non-existent, even in the early days of 2012-era Tesla it was just Panasonic (who still owns the Nevada Gigafactory battery portion of the plant: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/panasonic-boost-battery-output-teslas-nevada-gigafactory-nikkei-2023-06-05/). That NEVER was Tesla tech, never ever. And Panasonic has closer ties with Toyota or other Japanese firms in the long-run anyway.
Note: Tesla “batteries” are manufactured in the USA. But these are just assembling the cells together with PCBs and Safety Circuits. Its important yes, but its not the chemical knowledge or expertise that you’re suggesting. Tesla made investments to buy some companies to advance chemistry in theory, but none of those seem to have borne fruit yet.
If the elecrrix F150 handles this better
Note that F150 Lightning has AWD standard even on the lowest cost $49,995 model. Its absolutely going to kick-ass compared to a Rear-wheel only drive Cybertruck, and is under half the price of the $100,000 AWD Cybertruck.
Its a complete curbstomp, its not even close to comparable. F150 Lightning has better tech, better handling, better off-road / snow performance and lower costs and came out 2 years ago.
Welcome to rural America.
What? I used to go skiing in worse conditions with my peogeot 106. I never got stuck, the worst that happened is that someone had to sit on the hood to get going when we had to stop on a hill.
They were dumb enough to buy a cyber truck and you think they would drive through snow responsibly? They’re lucky it got stuck when it did or they would have frozen to death in the thing.
18 inches? 12 at most and I would be laughing my ass off going through that in my XC60.
I would probably put on 4wd in my Jeep but that kind of snow doesn’t even merit 4lo.
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The ground clearance on the cybertruck is about 17 inches and change, and it appears to be brushing against the snow even with an inch or so of compacted snow under the tires. I could be wrong, though.
I used to drive my 2004 Xterra through 2 feet of powder. A good SUV should be able to handle some snow if it has decent clearance under the body.
