(I notice you didn’t touch on this parallell in your previous answer)
Well they aren’t the same thing. I’ve seen the comparison made before and it’s kind of obnoxious to compare the two things and tiresome to respond to, so I had just ignored it this time. I’m not obligated to acknowledge every rhetorical point you try to make at me. The subject I’m on in that regard is whether the current veganism movement is effective, not whether I would personally be shamed into refusing to buy goods if I heard that Palestinians were being harmed in the making of them.
But if I thought BDS was an individualist movement that doesn’t appear to be doing anything and has a reputation for making shitty arguments in favor of it, I’d question it too.
It’s not meant as a personal attack against any particular vegan. My own approach for various things is shit sometimes and that needs to be acknowledged and evaluated. We aren’t imbued with the right way forward. Hell, I’m not even attacking a vegan revolutionary party here, because as far as I know, there isn’t one. What even is there to undermine with such criticism when it’s so disorganized? Am I being unfair to speak on unpleasant material realities, as I can discern them?
Well they aren’t the same thing. I’ve seen the comparison made before and it’s kind of obnoxious to compare the two things and tiresome to respond to, so I had just ignored it this time. I’m not obligated to acknowledge every rhetorical point you try to make at me. The subject I’m on in that regard is whether the current veganism movement is effective, not whether I would personally be shamed into refusing to buy goods if I heard that Palestinians were being harmed in the making of them.
But if I thought BDS was an individualist movement that doesn’t appear to be doing anything and has a reputation for making shitty arguments in favor of it, I’d question it too.
It’s not meant as a personal attack against any particular vegan. My own approach for various things is shit sometimes and that needs to be acknowledged and evaluated. We aren’t imbued with the right way forward. Hell, I’m not even attacking a vegan revolutionary party here, because as far as I know, there isn’t one. What even is there to undermine with such criticism when it’s so disorganized? Am I being unfair to speak on unpleasant material realities, as I can discern them?