The roll call Wednesday was 215-208, but next steps are uncertain. Trump would likely reject any measure from Congress to limit his commander-in-chief authority. Still, the tally, with four Republicans joining Democrats, was a rebuke of the president’s war strategy, and cheers erupted in the House chamber.
This isn’t anything new or specific to Trump. He can veto this like any other measure and the veto can be overriden With a 2/3 majority vote in Congress. That’s how it’s always worked.
…since 1983 when the supreme court decided the legislative branch did not have the power to veto the president. Even when congress was the one to delegate the power in the first place.
See: Immigration and Naturalization Service V. Chadha
@ChonkyOwlbear makes a very good point: the idea that the burden is on Congress to disapprove of the war and that Trump can veto their disapproval is completely ass-backwards, if you really think about it, and its absurd that the media and/or general public is treating it as anything remotely resembling business as usual.
(This isn’t meant to be a criticism of @Andronyx individually, BTW. I can’t blame them for falling for the same logical sleight of hand as almost everybody else.)
Don’t be too hopeful.
So much for checks and balances when the president can just “reject” Congress limiting his power.
This isn’t anything new or specific to Trump. He can veto this like any other measure and the veto can be overriden With a 2/3 majority vote in Congress. That’s how it’s always worked.
The way it’s always worked is the president can’t unilaterally declare war. Let’s not pretend we are still bound by precedent or rules anymore.
Is this the first time a president did war shit without approval?
Takes 51% to allow the prez to declare war or 67% to stop the prez from unilaterally declaring war? Dumb.
…since 1983 when the supreme court decided the legislative branch did not have the power to veto the president. Even when congress was the one to delegate the power in the first place.
See: Immigration and Naturalization Service V. Chadha
@ChonkyOwlbear makes a very good point: the idea that the burden is on Congress to disapprove of the war and that Trump can veto their disapproval is completely ass-backwards, if you really think about it, and its absurd that the media and/or general public is treating it as anything remotely resembling business as usual.
(This isn’t meant to be a criticism of @Andronyx individually, BTW. I can’t blame them for falling for the same logical sleight of hand as almost everybody else.)
Its the Constitution limiting his power. Legally, congress has the power to declare a war. We’ve just been ignoring that as a society for a while.
The Vietnam conflict was decades long. Comment checks out
If you ain’t paying politicians your vote means nothing
This guy never heard of the Trail of Tears.
It’s all moot anyway. If the rules worked he wouldn’t be able to continue anyway without congressional approval.
If the rules worked he would be in jail instead of the Whitehouse.
I absolutely guarantee you the rules would work perfectly for a democratic president.
Yes, Democrats do tend to vote for people who follow the law. You’re right about that
Even a baby step in the right direction is a step AND the right direction.
Better than no step at all.