"There is no way they could have been considered combatants," said one writer and analyst. "This is unreal."
  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    377·
    9 months ago

    … and the majority of the world just shrugs their collective shoulders …

    Meh, waddaya gonna do?

    At this point, our collective indifference to these atrocities makes us complicit.

    • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
      183·
      9 months ago

      No I think the majority of the world is appalled at what Israel is doing. It’s the governments being pressured by Zionist organisations and also the risk of losing the only western ally in the Middle East.

      Governments today don’t represent their people anymore. Not when most democracies are voting for the lesser of two evils all the time.

  • hperrin@lemmy.world
    388·
    9 months ago

    Israel is actually torturing and killing children and the Republican Party still supports them.

      • hperrin@lemmy.world
        111·
        9 months ago

        I didn’t blame Republicans, I said they support Israel. They do. And my comment was pointing out the irony about how Republicans are passing a bunch of anti-trans and anti-abortion laws under the pretense of “protecting kids” and fringe Republicans think Democrats are torturing and killing children, but when given the chance to actually condemn violence against real children, they don’t.

          • kinther@lemmy.world
            2·
            9 months ago

            The burden of proof is on the one making claims good sir. You should be prepared to back up your claims with reputable sources, lest people start thinking you’re just a propagandist.

            No one is denying a genocide is taking place. You need to step your game up. This isn’t the little leagues.

  • 3ntranced@lemmy.world
    143·
    9 months ago

    If Isreal keeps this up I wouldn’t be surprised if the neo-nazis start gaining traction again.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
    91·
    9 months ago

    That’s how easy we could finish putin’s war. Nope, instead some random people who are probably innocent or at least not doing anything other than talking and walking, instead they get the several million gifts.

  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
    126·
    9 months ago

    This is going to be unpopular, but how do we know they’re non-combatants? Just because they’re unarmed at the moment the video is filmed, doesn’t make the non-combatants, AFAIK.

    We’re basing this on the opinion of a a biased reporter, who wached the video and described what they saw?

    Disclaimer, required around here:
    Fuck Israeli Government.
    Fuck Hamas.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      91·
      9 months ago

      If Israel brought out video evidence of these specific guys doing stuff before then I’d agree. But with their track record the burden is definitely on them to prove these guys were combatants they just happened to catch unaware.

      • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
        16·
        9 months ago

        I’m sure the Israeli government has a lot of their hands right now to comment on every twitter video posted by a person who’s location is set to Gaza.

        If this is actually a war crime, I hope the culprits are punished accordingly.

        Other than that, I’m going to treat this as yet another twitter video, without context, cut to fit an agenda, with some blood-boiling comment.

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
      126·
      9 months ago

      If you’ve ever seen a Hamas video they sneak through the opnenings in the sides of buildings. They certainly don’t walk around in the open like this without worries.

      The burden of evidence lies on israel, and just like that time they drone striked an ambulance, no evidence will be presented.

    • Gloomy@mander.xyz
      28·
      9 months ago

      Yep, there is no context for this and heavy framing in the article. I agree with both of your Disclamers, but this is just propaganda.

      • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
        82·
        9 months ago

        The context is the HD video footage of the IDF drone striking obvious unarmed civilians.

        Where’s the context showing these people were enemy combatants deserving a death sentence by drone strike? Do you always take the “guilty until proven innocent” line, or is this a race thing?

          • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
            52·
            9 months ago

            By pointing to evidence to back my claim and asking for consistent standards and something vaguely resembling the rule of law?

            How do you propose we make the conversation better?

              • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world
                31·
                9 months ago

                By all means, tell me what their position is. Failing that, what’s the charitable assumption to make here?

                As far as I can see, the likely options are:

                • They support the genocide

                • They don’t care about the rule of law

                The former is more common in this context, but it’s both weird and worthless of you to insert yourself into the conversation to defend someone’s positions that (unless you can confidently answer this question) you don’t understand. Just like that, you’ve derailed the conversation into this irrelevant shit - what was your complaint again? Oh…

                • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee
                  12·
                  9 months ago

                  As far as I can see, the likely options are:

                  You can’t see very far then.

                  I don’t agree with your position, so you’re probably racist. Good day.

  • LordCrom@lemmy.world
    71·
    9 months ago

    Genocide is the goal. How do you negotiate peace between 2 sides that 100 % believe the other side should be eradicated

  • Forester@yiffit.net
    45·
    9 months ago

    The cynic in me thinks the IDF would not use $3000 in munitions to kill four random guys. Bullets are dirt cheap fpv bomb drones are expensive. From that I can only assume someone really wanted to kill one of them for some reason that we can not determine from the limited footage. I’m not saying war crimes including intentional starvation and indiscriminate fire are not happening but I don’t think this is one of them this looks far too coordinated and planned to be a random act of aggression.

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      9 months ago

      This isn’t the first or even new example, it’s been happening for years. Even to the point where Hamas and other militant groups claimed that the IDF was poor at infantry fighting which is why they overly rely on vehicles and standoff weapons.

      I think it’s just that because Israel is doing a large scale offensive, the fog of “they were Hamas” doesn’t fly anymore so its much more reportable in the media, along with an increase of examples.