FAQ

Q: why not organize and stop treating the bus as a legitimate entity? why aren’t you working to stop the bus?

A: do both. cut the fuel line. break windows. put oatmeal in the gas tank. but maybe your efforts don’t succeed this election cycle. and if so don’t fucking throw away your vote if it can help your neighbors fucking survive. “harm reduction” is not a political strategy for action. it is a last minute, end of the line decision to save lives, after all other resources have been exhausted.

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
    31·
    9 months ago

    I’m pretty sure they left the Electoral College out of this hypothetical scenario. Because the reality is, no matter how the general population votes, the Electoral College makes the ultimate decision. So the electoral College mightve decided to go for ice cream even though most people wanted to go off a cliff or didn’t care at all.

    And even more realistic, the only two options would have been 1) going off a cliff or 2) exploding into flames. because those are fair analogies for the options we have for US president these days.

    And that’s why so many people don’t want to vote. I don’t want to go off a cliff or burst into flames. No. I don’t want either of those things.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      32·
      9 months ago

      Is this PsyOps to keep people discouraged?

      The OP has a point and for some reason you don’t like it. I wonder which of the people you’d be in this analogy.

      I understand feeling angry and dejected, but if you act like there’s absolutely no hope, then there won’t be. Votes still matter in this country. Maybe they’re not counted in exactly the way you’d like, but they’re still important, and they make a difference.

      • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
        16·
        9 months ago

        The OP said the option was between going off a cliff or going for ice cream.

        I’m telling you in reality our options are going off a cliff or bursting into flames. And THAT is why people don’t vote.

        By the way, votes do not matter. The Electoral College trumps all. Every time I’ve ever voted for something, the opposite thing won. Votes don’t fucking matter.

        The only psyop is the media telling everyone that votes do matter.

          • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
            4·
            9 months ago

            People like you think it’s fun to watch. And you think it’s meaningful. So they’ve got plenty of audience in people like you.

        • meyotch@slrpnk.net
          9·
          9 months ago

          Why do you keep insisting that the only race that matters is for the Presidency? You keep hidng behind your superior moral stance based on the Electoral Colleges flaws. The electoral college only pertains to the presidency.

          What’s going on in your local school board or city council races? If you can’t answer, then perhaps reconsider who may be falling for a psy-op.

          • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            9 months ago

            That’s the race that’s being discussed, were not talking about local elections in this bus metaphor, it’s very clearly the presidential election being discussed, which explains the mentioning of the EC

              • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
                8·
                9 months ago

                fucken 10/10 comment and i want to unabashedly praise you for your correctness

    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
      17·
      9 months ago

      Also, you vote for going off a cliff or the committee to investigate driving off of cliffs, with a moratorium on steering, braking or accelerating because hey Jack, settle down, we’re trying. Then when the committee gets into power they tell you to look out the right hand window at the lovely view whilst they edge closer to the cliff on the other side, and if you try to point out that we’re getting awfully close to that cliff, the committee says, “Oh, well, do you want the cliff driving maniac in charge? That’s what you’ll get if you keep criticising us.” Then the bus bursts into flames because it’s horrifically out of service and unsafe no matter who’s driving.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
      8·
      9 months ago

      1. this analogy still applies if the electoral college is in place, it just alters (worsens) the demographics of the situation. not sure why you think it invalidates the whole model; that is simply incorrect. the model still applies it is just more complicated in reality.

      2. harm reduction is a last minute decision. it’s not the strategy for political action. yes i agree the situation is fucked. but at least let’s do our due diligence, and if we find that the explosion has a higher survival rate than the cliff, i’m going to do my damndest to stop the bus before i have to make that decision, but i will always choose the one that has even a marginal chance of saving more lives.