MUSKEGON, MI—Letting out an emphatic sigh as the boy began crying, local dad Harry Moran reportedly lost his patience Wednesday after providing his child with several continuous seconds of emotional support. “Oh, come on, are we still talking about this? I just said I was proud of you, for God’s sake!” the 44-year-old…
  • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.worldEnglish
    57·
    9 months ago

    You’re going to make the kid soft with all those occasional affirmational nods from accross the room.

    • frickineh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      462·
      9 months ago

      I wish this was just an old stereotype (and for many men, it is) but you wouldn’t believe how many men still come in my office with their family and their wives do all the paperwork and try to wrangle the kids while the dad plays on his phone and ignores them. I do see a lot more actively engaged dads but it’s by no means universal, unfortunately.

      • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1525·
        9 months ago

        My wife does the doctor work. Because I did the shopping, cooking, and dishwashing. You are just making judgments based on nearly zero information.

        • GrimSheeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
          29·
          9 months ago

          I don’t think they’re making judgments about every single dad, they’re just saying that the stereotype of many fathers not interacting much with their kids holds true for more fathers than one might expect.

          • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.worldEnglish
            320·
            9 months ago

            Soounds like validating a stereo type based off of 15 minutes of limited observation to me.

        • frickineh@lemmy.worldEnglish
          14·
          9 months ago

          They’re here to apply for a passport so both parents generally have to be here, and I really don’t think I’m asking too much for men to interact with their kids for 15 minutes if they’re not going to help with any of the paperwork. At least pay enough attention to keep them from running around getting into people’s stuff.

        • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
          5·
          9 months ago

          And that is great. Do you think everybody else also has a household as comfortable with this kind of division labor?

          I also noticed you didn’t say anything about who raises kids. That’s fine but it’s what this whole discussion is about ultimately. Caregivers are typically women by a large margin.

    • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      17·
      9 months ago

      Do you want to invite people to trauma dump? Because that’s how you invite people to trauma dump.

      This comment is what I’m doing instead of trauma dumping (the self awareness makes it funny again!)

    • Leshoyadut@fedia.io
      12·
      9 months ago

      This is both my dad and my stepdad, as well as the dad of several people I know. Sadly, it is very much not outdated.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        9 months ago

        They should’ve said “tired” instead of “outdated”, but otherwise I agree with them: The Onion should do better than basic stereotypes. I mean, unless there’s some bad dad news I’ve missed that’d make the parody more timely and creative, but…

    • BolexForSoup@kbin.social
      5·
      9 months ago

      I’m not sure where you live, but I know plenty of guys who operate like this unfortunately. Parenting/caregiving is still deeply gendered and a lot of men do not equally share the burden, which also translates into more frustration when things “aren’t working” because they aren’t used to dealing with kids (in particular tantrums at any age, but broader emotional needs as well) as much as their partners generally are.

      There has definitely been a lot of progress lately sure but we have a long way to go.