Hate to be that person but no headphone jack for a sustainable phone?
Environmentally friendly and fairly sourced, except for the consumable blue tooth earbuds we will sell you as a consumable to push our profits while creating e-waste.
Or the dongles you’ll lose. It’s the only reason I didn’t buy the Fairphone 4 and will never get the next one. I don’t understand how you can market sustainability and fixable stuff without the headphone jack.
am i seriously the only one that uses usb-c headphones? why is everyone immediately jumping to bluetooth?
My phone came with usb-c earphones.
Is that not an acceptable compromise?
Works fine for me.
No, because I own earphones and cables and don’t want to create more waste if I can help it. Plus, I may want to connect the audio out to an existing stereo system, and plug it in to charge at the same time.
I appreciate that more cables equals more waste and inconvenience. But your situation is more than likely not an issue for the majority. The options are out there. The arguments from some in here that a usbc to Aux is easy to lose is subjective. I’ve never lost mine, and it’s been just fine whenever I’ve needed it.
If you want something to connect your phone to a stereo whilst retaining the ability to charge then there are adapters that have an auc outpit and usbc input that can work as well as systems, like one called wiim, that you connect to your wifi and aux into your stereo/speakers that can play music from most wifi enabled devices losslessly. Both of these options would be fairly futureproof as they would work with any new phone, stereo/speakers, or other device, regardless of which you upgrade.
I know that it’s another thing to add on and costs kore money, but frankly, being angry about the lack of aux outputs on phones isn’t going to change anything.
You can either complain and achieve nothing or adapt and make any phone you choose to buy work for you and your specific needs.
If the audio output on this phone is the only concern you have, then i think it’s a small price to pay to support the many aspects of this phone that prevent explotation of workers and sustainability of materials etc.
That’s only one concern I have for this phone. The biggest concern is value to cost ratio. I’m willing to pay a premium for replaceable parts and longer support, but not if the design is substandard and the components are not there.
With no headphone jack thats gonna be a no for me dawg. How can they promote sustainability and then design a product that is going to be unusable in 5 years max. That’s just the reality of all wireless headphones. The battery will fail to hold charge and they will become useless. Not the truth for wired headphones. Goodwired headphones will last as long as you’re able to take care of them usually
Edit: if anyone could give me one good real reason to remove the headphone jack? It’s not about the alternatives it’s why remove it in the first place? And the space saving aspect of it has long been debunked.
The battery will fail to hold charge and they will become useless. Not the truth for wired headphones.
I don’t know how you use your headphones, but in my case I switched to wireless because every single pair of wired headphones I had would break. Usually the cable, earbuds because they were in my pocket, and the overhead ones I’d drive over with my office chair.
Switched to wireless a couple years ago, no issues since then.
It’s cuz you don’t put them in a protective case every time like you do with wireless earbuds. If you took the same care to wrap them up and properly protect them every single time before you put them away which takes like three more seconds than wireless earbuds they would last just as long.
It’s not the same care though. Wireless earbuds come with a box. For regular ones, I’d have to make a suitable box, and also carefully roll the cables every time.
A lot of wired earbuds especially if you’re willing to spend the kind of money you would spend on wireless earbuds come with very nice carrying cases. For cheapos there’s really cheap like silicone wraps that are super easy to use. It’s a little piece of silicone with a few little cutouts that makes wrapping the headphones really easy and keeps them relatively protected and tangle free. I put headphones on it every day for years and they’ve kept just as well as the ones with the fancy carry cases. In any case you can get much better sounding wired headphones plus the cheap carrying case for cheaper than any just as good wireless headset out there . And even if you’re not looking for a deal out of wired headphones. There is always a better fidelity over the microphone and sound quality than most wireless earbuds in my experience. Especially if you’re spending the same kind of money you are on wireless earbuds. And the only inconvenience comes at the lack of a headphone port. Putting them away is not this hassle people make it to be. There is a convenience of seconds with wireless earbuds.
Wired Earbuds or Headphones? Most wired earbuds are crap, so it makes sense to use Bluetooth. Wired Headphones should not break. I don’t want to argue with your experiences, but I have never seen headphones break. I used a pair for seven years, and only stopped using it wasn’t worth it to buy new pads (the headphones cost $20, pads $10).
I’ve had plenty of cables on wired headphones die, and if the headphones don’t have removable cables, that’s it for them (unless you can solder on new cables, but you could also argue that you can replace the battery of wireless headphones). I’ve had the cable of my Sennheisers break like 3 times so far and I’ve only had the headphones for a couple of years, luckily they can be replaced easily
I’ve gone through many pairs of headphones too, I’ve worked from home for years and had a long-distance relationship in a time before smartphones (and before cheap wireless headphones) so Skype+headphones was the solution. Both driving over them with an office chair and accidentally pulling them were real dangers and caused real damage.
Now I just don’t use them anymore, since I have meetings on a company laptop, and the relationship is much closer.
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I refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack but in my experience wired earbuds last about 9 months while my cheap JBL 110bt bluetooth buds are still going strong after more than 5 years of almost daily use. The battery still lasts about 7 hours.
Yeah, if you use earbuds, Bluetooth is so much better. I don’t know why wired earbuds are so garbage, but I had two die in three years. My headphones still work after seven, but the pads are worn off, so I stopped using them
USB DACs are quite small now. I don’t mind having to plug mine into my phone to use wired headphones.
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So the specs seem pretty good. Some are equivalent to the Pixel 7, some a little less, some a bit better like the selfie camera. But the pixel is quite a bit cheaper, nearly $200 retail. I wonder if they’re considering making a cheaper version equivalent to the Pixel a series.
I wonder if they’re considering making a cheaper version equivalent to the Pixel a series
I doubt it. Every different iteration of the phone means producing less pieces, which will inevitably drive the cost up. I doubt Fairphone can afford it.
Sustainability has a price. You’re indirectly paying that price for the Pixel too btw, it’s just not on the bill.
I think due to the custom designs involved in making it modular / repairable, combined with the niche appeal, it’s expected that these devices will be produced in low volumes and therefore will always cost more than the equivalent Pixel, due to missing out on economies of scale.
2028 Baseband support … so 5 ish years of full support. Which is pretty good, why not just say that?
Because they promised and continue to deliver more on Fairphones 2&3
Wait, people are scared of industrial components? They’re usually the most reliable
Iirc, a lot of them also have efficiency as a secondary priority, since whatever the chip is running will always be plugged in.
Secondary, yes, but the push to claim “muh production line is more green” has probably improved that too.
Embedded, low power stuff is quite common.
Then again I’m no expert, they could very well still be power hogs
Yeah, but it usually doesn’t downclock as aggressively, right? Or is that entirely dependent on the CPU scheduler?
The scheduler can’t do anything if the hardware isn’t designed to. If the cpu can’t downclock when idle, it won’t, regardless of software
Will be interesting to see a comparison of the fp4 and the pf5!
Pearphone 5?
almost; pairfone 5
I am looking forward to them eventually release a modular smartphone, like the framework. Since most component in a phone last way more than 5 years, yet the chipset is unlikely to be snappy after that amount of time.
A moment of silence for the best thing google ever killed.
Specs aren’t too bad, doesn’t sound like a bad mig range phone and I might actually consider this if it wasn’t that they don’t sell it here 😔
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Ah, another post on a great new addition to the Fairphone lineup, another post where the top comments are complaining about because there is no headphone jack, they won’t consider it.
Y’all seriously have your priorities messed up if that’s what keeps you from supporting Fairphone. If having a device with a headphone jack is that important to you, invest in a dedicated audio player. You can get some with high quality DAC’s and more. But seriously, y’all need to cope about the Fairphone not having a single feature you want being a total deal breaker. That’s honestly petty…
For a phone who’s ethos is sustainability buying a 2nd device just for music is antithetical. When my FP3 eventually goes out of support I’ll have to look elsewhere.
How about fairphone is the one with the priorities messed up when they’re encouraging ewaste by selling ear buds and ditching the jack?
I’ve bought 2 wireless Samsung earbuds pros because 1 stopped working. The second one also stopped working so I bought 10 dollar wired earbuds and haven’t had an issue. I wasted like 250 dollars before finding a 10 dollar solution.
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This seems to kill my USB C Port, as the dongle is attached while I move around and I’ve already destroyed 2 USB C DACs and 1 phone port.
I have switched to Bluetooth because of that, but a headphone jack would be really nice, because I do have some custom in-ears and some nice over-ears around, which I now never use…
Sounda great, but like all previous Fairphones there’s no reason for the vast majority of the people on Earth to be interested in this because it’s only available in Europe.
Even if I do import it here in AU; I don’t get a real warranty, I pay huge important taxes (or a markup to a reseller), and I have to go through just as much trouble for any replacement parts I may need.
You realize you are on a social media platform primarily funded by the European Union right?
Jokes aside, it’s not like the same argument ever comes up if the new is about US internal laws about net neutrality or their ISPs having to tell customers what they bill.
What argument? It’s a fact that I can’t purchase this phone, nor can most people on the planet.
Net neutrality and US ISP billing shenanigans don’t imact me, nor do they impact the rest of the planet.
What does that have to do with a phone that’s only sold in Europe?
