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  • Reddfugee42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    422·
    6 months ago

    Jesus Christ google, how much money are you spending to foil 0.000034% of your user base

    • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      6 months ago

      The purpose, is to keep it difficult enough that the “honest” person doesn’t get the idea to start doing it.

      Same concept as putting a lock on your front door. It’s not to stop thieves, it’s to stop the average person from getting the idea to “just take a quick look”.

      By occasional going after workarounds AND making it public news. Your average computer user thinks it’s not worth the hassle.

      • Zozano@aussie.zoneEnglish
        91·
        6 months ago

        If they don’t want honest people considering it, maybe they shouldn’t raise the price by 80% in a single price change.

        I paid for YouTube premium when it was first available. They guaranteed the price would never change as I was a first adopter. Then they did. Then they did it again. And then again.

        Google can fuck off. They have all the money in the world and they need to extort the people who helped grow their business.

      • kora@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        92·
        6 months ago

        Which they’ve shown they aren’t willing to do…

        Personally, YT premium is my only subscription I have, and wouldn’t really have any others if money wasn’t this tight. But I was paying before this recent anti blocker war, I prefer YT Music just because of the way it handles a bunch of the music remixed by seperate and probably not “official” artists. And with how much youtube I watch on mobile instead of my PC, messing with blocking wasn’t very appealing to me, since the jump from YTmusic to full premium is less than almost any streaming sub.

        But I have always watched/backgroundnoised a lot of youtube, so its not that much of pain. Realistically, this was bound to happen eventually, hosting that much content hasn’t really gone down in costs as quickly as most tech overhead. But its a fairly complex line item, not just hardware & facilities, but all the law office hours related to copyright log is an ongoing and probably still growing cost for them and since they are not Disney thats a real cost I’d imagine.

        As a side note, it just reminds me how shockingly unaware I am of how much they must value our personal data, that it only just now became worthwile to fight blockers with this much effort and PR/image depreciation.

      • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
        51·
        6 months ago

        Yeah but on one hand the price they want I’m not willing to pay, but if I could get it for less then I’d consider it.

          • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
            61·
            6 months ago

            It’s only worth what people are willing to pay. Already have Spotify anyways and not a fan of googles app killing tactics, learned that the hard way a couple times.

  • geelgroenebroccoli@feddit.nlEnglish
    191·
    6 months ago

    Luckily they can’t do this in the EU. As an EU-citizen, I have the right to subscribe in Romania, for example, and pay no more than a Romanian would.

  • Oisteink@feddit.nlEnglish
    194·
    6 months ago

    It sounds kinda illegal. Can Coca-cola stop me from going to Denmark to buy for danish prices and claim I have to pay Norwegian prices?

    It’s directly comparable to buying danish subscription and using the service from a danish exit. If my data originates in china and are vpn-ed to Denmark they have the same cost on providing me service as anyone else in Denmark

    Edit: I’ve never been to China, but it’s like really far away from Denmark.

    • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      9·
      6 months ago

      If you’re a convenience store but pallets of Coca Cola, then they kind-of can. They can just blacklist you from buying Coca Cola in the foreign country.

      It’s also different because they’re selling you continuous access one month at a time instead of a physical good you drink and they can’t take away from you. I’ve been to places where service costs are lower for locals than for tourists, and this is told to you outright. Stuff like museums, taxis, etc. It’s a similar idea YouTube has.

      Prices are also almost never based on cost, they’re based on what people will pay.

      I live in Canada, and cars are more expensive here than in the USA. US dealerships near the border refuse to sell new cars to Canadians, even though it’s legal for everyone as long as you make sure to pay duties on the way back. I’m guessing each brand has some rule against it.

      Ultimately VPN users aren’t a protected class so it’s legal to discriminate.

      • Oisteink@feddit.nlEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        I’m still not sure your car thing would match here - unless they refuse to sell you a car that you only use in the USA. I’m guessing these stores are brand owned? Why else would you refuse a sale - even if it’s useless to the buyer

        I could see rights come into play - but they usually regulate within the nation.

        I would think this is connected to name/address/payment not matching the country you claim to live in. If it’s VPN detection then a WiFi router doing the VPN would work fine.

      • ladfrombrad 🇬🇧@lemdro.idMEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Ultimately VPN users aren’t a protected class so it’s legal to discriminate.

        This is what I’ve always found fascinating about companies and governments trying to block their usage.

        All major firms/companies/governments use them, so, how the hell are they gonna stop them when their bosses get poked that’s something’s up 🙉

        Fun times ahoy.

    • blindsight@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      6 months ago

      There’s probably something in the terms about it, and it would take a very expensive legal battle to settle it. And I doubt it has enough legal merit to be taken on as a class-action lawsuit.

      So, really, does it matter if it’s illegal? With the asymmetrical power imbalance, they literally don’t need to care about the laws. Realistically, no EU regulator is going to fine them for cancelling “a purchase made in India”, either.

  • Illuminostro@lemmy.worldEnglish
    151·
    6 months ago

    Its too fucking expensive for what you get. Throw in access to all movires and TV for $15, then maybe I’ll subscribe.

  • istanbullu@lemmy.mlEnglish
    174·
    6 months ago

    I can watch Youtube without ads using an adblocker or NewPipe. Why anyone buys Premium is beyond me.

    • Rykzon@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      9·
      6 months ago

      I don’t really understand who you are getting at here. Everyone I know uses this combined with regular ad blockers. Anyway, once they figure out how to properly inject ads into the stream blocking is going to get really hard.

      • michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        I would not pay anyway. This is a principled position after I was shown a fraudulent advertisement 10 times in one evening (which used children with cancer to manipulate emotions)

  • Aeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    6 months ago

    I tried to get brazillian youtube premium or whatever and it just didn’t work.

    • lemming741@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      I did a South American country once too but the payment processor has a snafu and it stopped working after the 2nd month. I just spun up a personal invidious VM and moved on with my life.