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The first one.
It’s well established in the Star Wars universe that all you need to create gravity is a floor. Take, for example, any scene from within any of the space ships. Gravity is never a problem.
Of course, a deep chasm also seems to create gravity, as seen in the first movie when Luke and Leia swing from one ramp to another to escape the stormtroopers chasing them.
Regardless, it’s easy to see from the blueprints that the layout is stacked like your first image.
Edit: upon closer examination it turns out it’s both. The plans show three ‘concentric surface decks’ that apparently work like your second image. So I guess the answer is ‘it depends on where you are in the death star’, and, I guess, which way ‘down’ is where you are.
Since the sequels had space “bombers” dropping unguided bombs by just opening a hatch and letting them go, you only need to have a vaguely identifiable “down” for gravity to work…
Star Wars apparently takes place in the Elemental Plane of Air
… Does the Star Wars universe follow an entire branch of fictional science where the lumineferous aether is real, and relativity… isn’t?
Yeah, kinda.
Little ships seem to push off of something in space to maneuver. Big ships at least are described as having gravity generators.
Then there are of the loud, fiery explosions, which wouldn’t really work in a vacuum or near vaccuum.
There doesn’t seem to be any radiation from anything anywhere in space, almost like some medium is blocking it.
Also they all seem to find a (nearly) level plane to fight there ships on.
It depends on what cannon you look towards to see if relatively applies, generally it doesn’t, but every once in a while the writers will turn a ship into pure energy and nuke something.
So, you can have a fiery explosion in space… its just that it would have to be kind of chemical that can burn without requiring oxygen.
IRL there are many chemicals that, once sufficiently heated, basically burn themselves up extremely energetically without need for an atmosphere to fuel this process.
Also IRL, most rockets are controlled, continuous combustion of varying kinds of volatile chemicals, and if combustion manages to occur not al the rocket nozzle, you can absolutely have a fiery explosion, as the rocket itself brings the oxidizer along with it.
Coloration of various kinds of chemicals exploding can potentially be a wide array of colors beyond the typical orange/red we generally associate with most movie explosions.
Movie explosions are themselves often dramatically overdone for the fireball effect by adding huge amounts of gasoline or kerosene or things like this to greatly accentuate the fireball.
Further, due to lack of a gravitation field, and atmosphere to allow for air currents, flames do not go up, they basically form spheres around whatever is burning, and look totally different from what we are used to.
Basically, fiery explosions in space are realistically possible, its just that they would look very different from say a fighter plane exploding in atmosphere.
Depending on how you explain them, they could be different colors, expand in very visually distinct ways, and probably visually persist for a much shorter time frame.
What you could not have is the scene from the Acolyte where Osha outs out a fire.
If some kind of flammable gas managed to ignite, then the fire would not be limited to just where it is exposed to
airspace.The combustion would spread through the entire container or fuel line system and basically all of that would likely explode.
Dude’s first word describing the explosions was “loud”. Just fyi.
Yes… and… ?
Their next words were ‘fiery explosion’, so I responded to that.
Its pretty immediately obvious that sound does not exist in space (beyond maybe you in a suit picking up vibrations from something you are touching), but this is a very, very commonly disregarded reality in nearly all space faring Sci Fi movies/shows.
I assumed this is so obvious it does not need an explanation as to its realism, whereas the presence of fiery explosions and fire in space is actually a complex and interesting subject.
But what if the Deathstar wore pants…
It’s Star Wars so most likely nr 1.
Just like earth! With magnets! GOSH.
Or like the picture on the right but with the people standing on the inner surfaces instead of the outer ones? Centrifugal force from rotation is the only way we know how to make “artificial” gravity, although you can imagine the comical scene if it had to stop rotating in order to fire.
It could spin around the cannon’s axis pretty easily, I imagine.
Also it would need to spin in layers because the outside would be moving a lot faster than the inside. For the size of it that actually probably wouldn’t matter all that much since the closer layers wouldn’t need to be inhabited by anyone but much more resilient droids.
One thing for sure is that even with such afancy technology they probably wouldn’t have directional floor gravity producers. The stacked version would then need to have gravity generators at the very bottom and it would get weaker as you go up which would be…strange.
It being a sphere should make walking around very uncomfortable. Every single place is a ramp, and the gravity is never the same anywhere.
since death star is capable of delivery a blast with high energy density, its core might be a nuclear fusion or anti matter power plant. maybe the mass there generates sufficient gravitational force.
Mix of both probably. Star Wars tech seem to swap gravity direction easily and smoothly. Like the gun chambers on the Millennium Falcon.
Big enough nerd to know the canonical answer was both. The exterior of the Death star all had gravity pointed down towards the middle of the station. However once you got past this defensive layer artificial gravity was oriented like the left side.
Could also be spin gravity, with the feet pointing outwards.
It doesn’t spin, otherwise the laser becomes… pointless.
Could still establish orbit and adjust spin in a way so they are tidally locked
a tidally locked orbit like that isn’t going to generate 1g of force though. Earth’s tidally locked moon only rotates once every 27 days.
It’s manned by military personel who should expect not having comfortable 1g all the time (either way doesn’t matter as Star Wars has magic gravity anyways)
Then you don’t get the spin you need but whatever is compatible with the thing you are orbiting.
Not if the center of the laser dish is one of the poles.
Yes but once you start spinning you want to keep spinning, and that kinda fucks with turning in any direction because of the angulam momentum.
I feel like there’s a pun semi-buried here…
