On July 25, after a couple of months of debate, the Wikipedia entry “Allegations of genocide in the 2023 Israeli attack on Gaza” was changed to “Gaza genocide.” This was done despite the fact that the International Court of Justice in the Hague has not made an official ruling on the matter, in the wake of South Africa’s petition to the court alleging that Israel is committing or facilitating genocide in Gaza.

The Los Angeles-based Jewish Journal, which followed the Wikipedia discussion and vote, wrote that the editors who voted on this change claimed to be relying on an academic consensus based on statements of experts on genocide, human rights, human rights law and Holocaust historians.

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      They’ll start a new wiki like conservatives did. Call it Zionedia.

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        this is perfect though. Because it takes them away from slowing down progress on wikipedia and instead wastes their time on something with shit SEO.

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            And others say we’ll end up with normal and woke.

            I’m not on a team and feel like we will indeed end up with just 2 things and it’ll be both extremes. And most people will be stuck in the middle wondering why we have teams.

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              Oh look, a centrist.

              We’ll just have some middle ground between slavery and emancipation. We’ll just have a middle ground between genocide and no genocide. We’ll just have a middle ground between democracy and dictatorship. etc…

              Being stuck in the middle isn’t the rational position you seem to think it is.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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      Conservapedia will finally reach the mainstream https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_forks_of_Wikipedia

      A number of content forks of the open-source encyclopedia Wikipedia have been created:

      • Enciclopedia Libre, a 2002 fork of the Spanish Wikipedia created in opposition to perceived plans to add advertising to Wikipedia

      • Conservapedia, a 2006 fork of the English Wikipedia that aims to present a conservative-friendly worldview

      • Qiuwen Baike, a 2023 fork of the Chinese Wikipedia that aims to be compliant with Chinese government policies

      • Ruwiki (Wikipedia fork), a 2023 fork of the Russian Wikipedia that aims to be compliant with Russian government policies

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    Its likely too early (For Wikipedia) just because the ICJ hasn’t made a ruling. The genocide however is pretty plain to see and has been all year. Wikipedia has always done weird and often inconsistent things around the evidence allowed and sufficient to support statements in its articles so its not a new issue.

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      The ICJ ruling will take years though.

      I think the most similar genocide to the Gaza genocide is the Bosnian genocide. The Srebrenica massacre took place in 1995 and the ICJ ruled in 2007.

      So, the Gaza genocide might take until 2035 before it is all legally settled.

      In the interim, Wikipedia and all of us need to decide what to call it.

      Since it looks like a genocide and the initial findings support the case that genocide is likely being committed, it seems to border on genocide denial to call it anything else.

      Edit to add: I also don’t see people complaining about Wikipedia calling the Rohingya genocide a genocide, even though it is legally in the same phase as the Gaza genocide.

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        In the interim, Wikipedia and all of us need to decide what to call it.

        Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, shits like a duck. Probably a duck.

        Totally okay with calling it a genocide- and while they dither on what a slow-as-fuck court says, people are dying en masse.

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          shits like a duck.

          In ponds?

          Kidding aside, it’s ABSOLUTELY a genocide. There’s no doubt about it by any credible definition.

          That Wikipedia has started calling it a genocide is a much needed step that removes one of the few remaining straws that Hasbarists and other genocide deniers have left to grasp at.

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          Israel is starving the population, bombing them, shooting them, blockading them, it has destroyed all the medical facilities, educational institutions, all the infrastructure, it has cut off electricity and water and blocks or kills anyone trying to help the people to live. Israeli leaders openly express genocidal intent. There’s no doubt this is genocide.

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    “This article is about the genocide accusations against Israel”

    Doesn’t mean the Wikipedia editors agree it is.

    And I’m not saying it isn’t.

    But OP is not being honest.

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    World News = 4,259 articles announcing that Israel is committing genocide and 1,865 articles claiming there isn’t enough coverage that Israel is committing genocide.

    Look. I get it. Israel be bad. But there is other stuff happening in the world that I’d like to know about. I don’t need to be told the exact same thing over and over and over and over and over again.

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      I don’t think anybody is expecting Wikipedia admins and contributors to directly affect the outcome of conflict in the middle east, but deliberative discussions of how the events are documented can only be a good thing.

      The site acts as much of our ‘record’ in the modern age - and is ideally less eager to throw out hyperbole or speculate too readily.

      Arriving at that title and nomenclature needs to be seen as a reasoned approach, and not “crying wolf” so that the impartiality of the articles can be upheld - by being careful about their decision, it is a better outcome for everyone.