cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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    “As a physician who has delivered over 5,000 babies, I can confidently say that politicizing children’s gender to use them as pawns in their radical woke agenda is not only wrong, it is extremely dangerous" has got to be the most unaware sentence I’ve ever seen.

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      To be honest it’s probably all the hot trans-girls turning them down, like there’s a conspiracy or something, but hot trans-girls just don’t like conservative assholes.

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    He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

    bill attempts to stop something that was never occuring

    Holy shit, it worked and it hasn’t even been signed yet.

    I don’t know about y’all but I don’t remember Kamala or Biden directly spreading information in favor of lgbtq+ values. That’s mostly been Hollywood. There might be some lobbying going on and some shoulder rubbing, but… I mean, I have yet to even hear Biden say the word trans in any real context unless I’m wrong, here. Their stance is less a stance and more of a “you’re human, you’re cool too”.

    But the scene does seem to be that the Republican party can just claim they stopped Kaijus and Holy wars and their fanbases will eat it up, so…

    “Hey, my podcast said you didn’t exist yesterday.”

    …sorry to disappoint you.

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    Someone should establish a Department of Senate Efficiency to look into whether that is an efficient use of the senates time.

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    They’re not even replacing anything, they’re just adding to it. Why do ya’ll even care. Life is already so fucking miserable, even worse when you feel like you’re not even in the right body. Fucking help people. Why is it that seemingly every politician just hates people? Why go out of your wait to be a representative just to make people miserable.

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      Because picking on ever smaller societal minority classes makes them look hard on the issues. Torturing people that otherwise don’t effect you is easy political points for heartless monsters representing imbeciles.

      Exploiting hatred instead of trying to resolve hatred really.

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    No-one is “replacing biological sex” silly.

    Gender is different from sex. It’s related, but separate.

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    Might as well define the Earth as flat and the Moon as green cheese while he’s at it.

    Do these fuckers have literally nothing else to do than wage wars against reality?

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      Maybe a strategy to distract the masses while they and their supporters handlers steal the country blind.

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      It keeps us divided. It misdirects the anger of their base towards something other than how badly they are being fucked.

      Never attribute that to malice which can be adequately explained by stupidity… Unless it comes from the mouth of a Republican politician.

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    Imagine if we had a senate that was focused on real political and social issues instead of who has the “right” to go to the bathroom. Fucking nonsense.

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    of course I hate the active reduction of freedom. But may I ask, how important is this? Will trans people be able to continue to survive? Existing and being who you believe you are seems to be the important detail which pisses then off. They can’t do anything but be explicitly rude.

    Should someone decide to fight you for being trans, I will fight for + with you.

    Writing this comment mildly drunk, I’m sure there’s problems with it, but what if it’s like rain off a window, you look at it and ignore it?

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      Nah you’re right, for the most part trans issues have been a great source of debate but mild source of actual problems.

      Won’t stop either of us being virtually jumped on for saying it, though

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      This is a precursor to them trying to sue trans people for “fraud” by having documents with the correct gender marker. Also, the cruelty is the point, and this is in itself cruel.

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      Getting rid of Title IX protections is going to make surviving pretty fucking hard if you wind up with a bigoted manager who decides to fire you… Or just companies decide they don’t want to hire trans people at all.

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        😮‍💨 it kinda seems like these companies already disengage once they meet via video or in person. Generic reasons are presented, “poor for for the team” etc.

        If an HR person is dumb, you’ve possibly got em dead to rights with IX and some kind of evidence. I just think it’s so crazy to disregard someone’s potential just because they want to exist as their internal self.

        Over time, that particular org won’t be as successful as the one hiring candidates for effectiveness over appearance, but damn does it suck for the individual bring denied at that time.

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    If centrists wanted to be upset about bigotry against trans people, they could have started when they were blaming trans people for Harris losing. They could have started when their candidates were parroting Republican “boys in girls’ sports” bigotry in their own ads.

    The indignation here rings hollow because like all the pretended morals of centrism, it is hollow.

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      For the first time in history we had a president address trans issues in a state of the union. No democratic politicians have enacted legislation against Trans - in fact quite the opposite. But here you stand grandstanding again.

      Get over blaming centrists for all your problems and enjoy the next four years

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          It’s the only options we got in a FPTP. If you think not participating absolves you of any moral agency then you are just naive. I never said the democrats were champions of trans issues. I said steps were being taken in the right direction. They were very small steps, but it was something. Democracy demands vigilance and active participation. Its only as strong as it’s participating individuals. The same goes for any other polity, so don’t delude yourself in thinking that we are immune to corruption in any alternate system either.

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        Tell me, how happy were you to see the bigotry you agree with at all times repeated by candidates in your own party?

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              I remember these now. I find those two candidates and their messaging despicable. However I should caveat: these are two small town local races. They run in stark contrast to the messaging from the President.

              I understand the Dnc is a big party tent. In an ideal world I’d love to see a true progressive party take hold in America. The DNC needs a thorough shake up. Im feeling pretty glum about it atm tbh

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                However I should caveat: these are two small town local races

                Allred was running for US Senate. Gonzalez was running to represent TX-34 in the US House of Representatives. I gave you their names and you can use google.

                I understand the Dnc is a big party tent.

                Yeah, big enough for anti-trans hate and not one but two Cheneys. But fuck progressives.

                In an ideal world I’d love to see a true progressive party take hold in America.

                And an ideal world is your prerequisite since it means shutting out progressives until that happens.

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                  I personally didn’t shut down progressives. When I say ideal world I’m just stating my preference. As in I’d really like to see a progressive party. Non the other way around.

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    Ya know, this “guy” goes by the name Roger and wears a suit and tie - why I bet he uses the “mens” bathroom… but how do we even know he’s “male”? No seriously, how do we know he’s not secretly just using the “mens” to try to assault/molest/peep on other alleged “men”?

    I mean, if he’s defining “male” then what follows, clearly, are inspections. He should not be exempt from them but, if he truly has nothing to hide, should be willing to be first in line.

    wHaT ArE yOu HiDiNg “Roger”?

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    We need media stepping up the messaging that the Right is infatuated with the genitals of people, especially children. Outside of maybe your Dr. (and/or partner), nobody should be talking about, or caring about your genitals to the degree the Right is in this pervy/pedo crusade of late.

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      Aren’t doctors supposed to take an oath to do no harm? This will cause so much harm.

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      Dr Oz is a real doctor as well. Unfortunately medical school doesn’t prevent people from being delusional. Or giant assholes for that matter