• Fosheze@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Win 10 was definitely an improvement over 8. I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp. Of course now 10 has been fully enshitified but it used to be good.

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      I would agree that 10 was very good, but i could say similar things about windows 11 which in many ways performs better then 10.

      And yet its shortly after upgrading to 11 that i switched to linux to never look back.

      I think part of the logic in this meme is that it doesn’t matter how good the basic functions of the operating system are but what does is the design philosophy of the company. Loyalty in other systems decreased while Loyalty in windows gained.

      Microsoft force feeding edge, onedrive, burrying the local account option till after the install with Microsoft account.

      Randomly finding an update put a second weather widget on my taskbar that shows a different weather then the one in start. Taskbar icons that cant be closed, only hidden.

      These things don’t affect the OS functionality in a big deal but its like i was in an abusive relationship that i finally got out of. No matter how much sweet talking and promises to do better i am not going back.

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      Dude, I am all for people trying and stuff.

      I can tell that you are just starting out in the graph game, and that is cool and all. But compare to OP yours looks terrible. I’m not trying to be mean, I’m just trying to save you from the embarrassment.

      Take another look at OPs graph and pay attendtion to the different thickness in the lines and the unpredictable curves.

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      Yea, I’d say Win10/11 is on the same good/shit cycle as always

      Though whether Win12 breaks it and continues the shitty trend is highly likely at this point

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      Try to install windows 10 on hdd and see for yourself, Linux works fine no matter which device it’s loaded from, windows before 10 did too

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    Vista wasn’t that bad. The dodgy selling it on computers that couldn’t handle it was an issue (much like they still do with selling laptops with only 32gb storage).

    I still think it was one of the nicest looking - black taskbar with the start button sticking up, sidebar widgets, aero glass etc

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      You’re absolutely right about this. 7 is basically a Vista service pack that got rebranded.

      All of the “good stuff” people credit 7 with came in Vista.

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      It was never stable for me. I remember I had a laptop that would always refuse to shut down because “shutdown.exe” was running

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      I think some of the biggest complaints about Vista were its poor driver support and over-active UAC. You couldn’t hardly do anything on the computer without UAC bugging you for permission when Vista first came out.

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        “couldn’t do anything”

        This was a third-party implementation problem, not an OS issue.

        By the time Third party software stopped being all loosy-goosey like the OS was windows XP, Microsoft had already re-branded the OS to Win7.

        Vista’s UAC wasn’t any more problematic than sudo is.

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    The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.

    Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.

    Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It’s all of Win10’s worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it’s own bullshit and spyware on top

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      Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen

      So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in the start menus of earlier Windows versions.

      I’d say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).

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        Personally, I felt like Win8 was an over correction in favor of touch screens vs Win7. Win8.1 was kind of the sweet spot for getting touch screen functionality into Windows while maintaining a consistent UI between tablets, laptops, and desktops. So much so that I would consider it to be separate point on the chart between 8 and 10.

        Win10 did improve the UI a bit over that, but was so much of a step backwards in basically every other regard that I do consider that the point at which Windows started trending consistently downwards. As in, Win10 should be lower then Win7 on that curve, with Win11 lower than that, and no real hope that any future updates or versions will ever improve anything.

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    I would put win8 lower and win10 as a slight rise but not up to win 7 territory and then plummet. osx should plummet with the iosification of it.

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      8 had a real small install footprint if I recall. It worked on a lot of really shitty hardware that 10 didn’t. 8 is definitely not as popular as 10

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    Linux is so bad it’s worse than everything else even when others are enshittifying aggressively? Got it!

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      Over the years I’ve tried switching to Linux and it definitely was less user friendly. I think Mint has made huge strides and hopefully will be able to take over.

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        I tried Ubuntu in 2015 or so, and Mint in 2018, and quit both times. Now i’ve been using Mint since last July.

        I don’t know if it’s because Linux changed or i changed, but one way or another something clicked. I’m planning on switching entirely to Mint before Win10 reaches end of life because there’s no way i’m installing Win11, so i have to migrate my whole workflow by then.

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          Then what are these?

          I also remember seeing Candy Crush appear mysteriously without any prompting…

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            These are things I don’t have 🤷

            Do your installation properly (use English UK as your display language) and you don’t get any of those.

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        If you dunno how to switch that off in 3 clicks you should probably stay away from computers mate lol

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            Agreed, but to say an operating system is so much worse because 3 clicks when comparing overall functionality seems highly exaggerated. There is a reason most companies went from 7 to 10 and skipped 8. They are also going to 11. You could argue that enterprise OS’s are separate though, but really they are very similar, and the reason windows does so well in companies is because most users have it at home. If most users go to something else at home, (or simply stop using home computers with the switch to phones, tablets) then enterprise will change and slowly feed the prominent OS for work back to home use. It’s a catch 22. If the standard user has to use something 40 hours a week at work, when they come home that is what they will be used to. Also what their kids will become used to. But companies don’t like to change what people are used to, as it slows production, and costs a lot more in training.

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    Probably an unpopular opinion, but I think 11 is pretty great from a technical standpoint. The only real issue I have is modern standby…I miss having laptops that actually go to sleep and aren’t dead a day later. But that’s a fight I’ve given up on.

    Now…the ads, MS accounts requirements, tracking and telemetry, the pre-installed bloat like News (a glorified clickbait aggregator), Movies and TV, Office, etc. make what is technically fine into a garbage experience.