• Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de
        1·
        23 days ago

        Well in an immutable distro, there is little to no chance for the system to end up in an unusable state (I guess it is the same for distros which apply the updates atomically). Traditional distros are far more likely to bork when so much shit is updated at once

      • Atemu@lemmy.ml
        2·
        24 days ago

        staging rebuild cycles only happen every two weeks or so.

        The reason is always that something changed and causes all dependent packages to change, requiring a rebuild of those too.

      • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
        1·
        22 days ago

        It looks like it’s Debian’s logo in the bottom left and that that’s apt output.

        EDIT Nope, that’s pacman output, seems like they ssh’d into another arch-machine.

  • dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml
    1·
    24 days ago

    I’m sorry, I gotta - you have the menu on AND the button bar? like, why? you click on those things? you got your screen real-estate on a sale, what?

    • cevn@lemmy.world
      1·
      23 days ago

      Ya I turn those off too haha. Hide the scrollbar too… Then press F11. Terminal man…

  • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.br
    1·
    23 days ago

    people laughed at me for choosing debian. they asked why i chose to have ancient runes running in my computer

    who’s laughing now?

    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
      12·
      23 days ago

      So you neglected the operating systems maintained regularly, despite it being a rolling release? I assume you didn’t read the manual intervention instructions that are posted regularly too. I don’t understand people using a rolling release and then not caring about the maintenance. Off course it won’t end very well.

    • dan@upvote.au
      1·
      24 days ago

      My personal prod systems never have many upgrades… But they’re running Debian stable and I have unattended-upgrades installed and configured.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    24 days ago

    Sometimes I wish someone would make a an Arch box and come back to it years later to see the updates it has missed.

    But that’s assuming an Arch box would be reliable enough to stay alive that long lol.

    Always heard of 20+ year old bsd and debian machines chugging along with no issue.

    • nous@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      24 days ago

      I have updated arch systems that had not been powered on for years before. It was fine. No issues what so ever. Arch is not some flaky distro that breaks if you look away for a minute. My main system has had had the same install for over 5 years now and I regularly forget to update it for months at a time. Again, no issues.

      • kautau@lemmy.world
        1·
        24 days ago

        Yeah really the biggest issue I could see is pacman’s keyring being so out of date that it has to be manually refreshed with a new one

  • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
    0·
    24 days ago

    This is why I Dont use rolling release Distros on Pcs i wont use often.

      • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        23 days ago

        Because you get a update once a update for a package comes out, If you dont update for a very long time you need to download a very large update.

  • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    0·
    23 days ago

    I have an Arch laptop that I didn’t update for 3.5 years. The system update took a while when I finally went through with it. Amazingly it didn’t break anything!

    • SunRed@discuss.tchncs.de
      0·
      23 days ago

      Yes, I am amazed that quite a few people in this thread are saying they ‘had to completely reinstall the os’ and that it broke everything after not much time. As long as one doesn’t rely on the AUR for system critical packages or much in generel, it is incredibly hard to break an Arch system (Manjaro and other Arch-based distros don’t count). This is due in part to Arch being quite reproducible but it also having very good maintainership.
      It doesn’t hurt to apply new package configs by going through pacdiff once in a while though.

      Edit: Typo

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        23 days ago

        Manjaro and other Arch-based distros don’t count

        I think this has a lot to do with it. I have seen people say they use Arch before and then find out they’re using a derivative.

      • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
        01·
        22 days ago

        I ran a base-Arch with i3 before, I got tired of restoring backups and fixing things and went back to Debian. It broke too quickly by its defaults in my experience.