The controversial CSAM scanning plan keeps coming back
  • iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    Can we have the names in the headlines of which MPs keeps consistently putting this crap on the agenda multiple times every year for the last couple of decades?

  • b34n5 [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    10 days ago

    It is the definitive moment to change instant messaging application. I have switched to the XMPP protocol with clients like Gajim or Profanity. There are also applications for smartphones.

    • davidebro@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      6 days ago

      I don’t think Startmail will be affected. Ofcourse using Gmail is free pass to your data. But look at this https://www.startmail.com/ . I think if you also use Proton or other mailing services you’re 99,9% safe. I sometimes play video games, some of my friends are kids who are cursing in gamechats. How will gaming chats be affected? Does the government have access already?

      • bloubz@lemmygrad.ml
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        13 days ago

        This is why Matrix is infinitely better than Signal. This and not having been funded by the CIA through Radio Free Asia. Even with weaker architecture

      • toastal@lemmy.ml
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        13 days ago

        You say this but Matrix is largely centralized so it would be easy to get the biggest node to comply. Servers are quite costly to run too which is a big problem.

        • eleitl@lemm.ee
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          13 days ago

          Federated protocols are not centralized in principle. It might not scale to one user-one server (which probably even Lemmy can’t handle) but if you’re signing up for a central server, you’re doing it wrong™. Don’t do that. The nice thing about Matrix client is that it allows end to end encryption, including groups. So that greatly limits what Mallory can do in principle. As to servers being costly to run, given what documented Synapse requirements are, you’re looking at less than 5 EUR/month for a single server. Which can be shared among several users, obviously. This is in the same range as costs for a monthly VPN.

          • toastal@lemmy.ml
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            13 days ago

            Synapse boasts about 50,000 concurrent users on a node. Ejabberd has been tuned to 2,000,000 concurrent users which shows how efficient & scalable the setup can be. €5/mo is a lot for many folks.

            • eleitl@lemm.ee
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              13 days ago

              Poor people (who still can afford the end devices and an Internet plan) can of course share the costs in a community, or use one of the many free servers, as long as they are aware of the tradeoffs. Beigers not being choosers, and all that.

              • toastal@lemmy.ml
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                12 days ago

                You can also choose to use technologies that aren’t such resource hogs. The eventual consistency model of Matrix alone & storage costs causud many medium-sized operations to shut their doors. Distroot.org for instance had to move to XMPP to deal with costs—& I have personally seen others.

                • eleitl@lemm.ee
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                  12 days ago

                  Does XMPP have feature parity with Matrix? I presume that bridges exist?

    • airikr@lemmy.ml
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      13 days ago

      Self-hosted XMPP using OMEMO included? OMEMO are based on Signal, hence my question.

    • Undertaker@feddit.org
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      13 days ago

      eMail is affected as well. There is no alternative. And mails are not private if not all participants use end to end encryption

      • ISOmorph@feddit.org
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        13 days ago

        Of course there are alternatives. That’s the cherry on top of this crap pile: only regular non tech folks are affected. Nerds and actual criminals will just run an xmpp or simplex server and not care about the legislation.

    • RiQuY@lemm.ee
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      13 days ago

      Then go tell that to all of your WhatsApp contacts, people won’t change apps.

      • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Protonmail is

        Edit: At least it is if both the sender and recripient uses protonmail. Its open source so you could verify the client to make sure that the contents are encrypted. As for IP address and subject lines tho, that’s up to the Protonmail company to honor your privacy, and just hope they don’t betray you.

        • rImITywR@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          13 days ago

          Even if you have 100% confidence in your own provider, you also need 100% confidence in every other recipients provider, which is basically impossible.

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          13 days ago

          The body of the messages arguably are, but the metadata is not, and that includes the subject line and the sender & recipient addresses.

        • Godort@lemm.ee
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          13 days ago

          Protonmail is definitely more private than google or Microsoft, but you shouldn’t hold 100% trust in any provider. Ultimately your data is still on their hardware and they have control of it. Also, as others have pointed out, both sides need to be secure otherwise all that data is accessible on the other side.

          You can mitigate it yourself a bit by hosting your own email server, but I highly recommend against that as its a massive headache to secure and basically every provider will reject your messages anyway.