• Hanrahan@slrpnk.net
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    “Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of motives, will somehow work together for the benefit of all.”—John Maynard Keynes

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    I’ve been saying this for years. Some douchebag will always pop up to argue with me saying that under capitalism, the serfs have a choice of whether to work for this king or that king (er, I mean, Company)… and I just laugh and laugh. And point to the existence of Company Towns as a concrete example.

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      No, lots of kings were brutal tyrants and/or totally incompetent rulers. The ones who took care of their subjects and who were wise and competent were extremely rare. These were the philosopher kings Plato wanted as rulers.

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      This is totally possible under actual democracy, the only challenge is getting enough people to the point where they’re not voting against their own long-term interests, and voting system’s robust enough to withstand the influence of capital.

      What I mean is, there are governments around the world already funding positive things, on the collective purse.

      It’s just at the moment, it pales in comparison to the stranglehold capitalism has over our economies.

      Just saying, we don’t need to wait for the entire world to join hands to move towards socialism.

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      And like, specifically bureaucratic profesionals. There’s plenty of us out here with real jobs that require experience and specialty knowledge like skilled trades, culinary, medical, etc, but then there’s those asshats that pretend “synergy” is a thing and for some reason they make the most money???

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    Don’t most small farmers in the west at least own their own land. So not really like feudalism but I get your point.

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      Just as residents in cities are progressively owning less of the land they live on family farmers are being pushed out by corporate megafarms.

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    Debatable honestly. People inherited who were so bat shit insane even the “free market” can’t do worse.

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      Insane people inherit wealth today and lead their “kingdom” to ruin only to be proper up by somebody else only to fail again.

      We just haven’t had this type of capitalism for long enough to see many Neros that had infinite power and then ruin it completely. We are in the holy Roman empire with 1000+ kingdoms constantly in strive with each other. Some are more powerful than others and ever so often one completely shits the bed because the inherited child is an absolute buffoon.

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      Also, it was by no means always inheritance. Quite often it was the most power hungry psychopath that won.

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        I’ll pay you more. Come with me! Well, that and God said that I should be king. It is my divine right! My great grandpa made a deal with his great grandpa! Oh, and never fight uphill, me boys. Not good.

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    LMAO bro never heard about Caligula.

    He surely thinks Ivan the terrible was great with people hahahha

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      LMAO bro never heard about Caligula.

      You mean the Caligula who was assassinated after a reign shorter than a modern US presidential term? Is that the Caligula that you claim OP is ignorant of and you’re not?

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    Yeah sort of, in the sense of the classes being so far apart. And nepotism hires can feel like hereditary rule.

    But companies don’t generally go to war with each other. The comparison falls apart if you think about it too hard.

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      Mergers and acquisitions are quite combative at times, albeit not physically.

      When it comes to going outside the western countries, companies absolutely do use violence to get their goals. There is multiple mining companies waging war on indigenous people in South America and Africa, murdering them to steal their lands. Look for the term Banana republic to see how US companies used to slaughter striking employees, etc…