• Mirshe@lemmy.world
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      Behind the Bastards did a good piece on the arguable complicity of the Times in the Holocaust over journalistic “neutrality”.

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    Wasn’t “concentration camp” a euphemism, too?

    I mean, most people know people are not doing any “camping” at such a place, but…still.

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      No.

      Camp means encampment. Which refers to temporary or light shelter, usually for a group. And the term “concentration camp” is from the 1800s.

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        Concentration camp did indeed start as a euphemism but it’s not the “camp” part that was but the “concentration” part.

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    francesca fiorentini called it Alligator Auschwitz, which i like because it keeps the alliteration while conveying the concentration camp idea.

    edit: i heard it from her first but many leftists seem to be calling it that; my bad.

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    And like the Germans in WW2, the Americans are also starving and beating these people, but they’ve outsourced that shit to nations like El Salvador to obscure the atrocities.

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    Those who deny life and liberty to others don’t deserve it themselves. They should all keep their oath to the constitution or they should die fighting against it.

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    Not for the first time in American history, but hopefully for the last time.

    People give me shit for getting hung up on specifics, but remember that the majority of Germans really didn’t know what was going on at the camps till the very end of the war when they were shown film evidence of camps being liberated.

    The literal card carrying nazis tried to hide it better than what is happening now, when members of the party openly “joke” about feeding 65 million (the number of Hispanics, not immigrants even if legal were included) to alligators, there is no logical reason to believe they’re being honest about what is really happening there.

    Alligators have stomach acid strong enough to dissolve bone, it takes a while (months?) but eventually there will be no trace of a body. They could literally be tossing them in a swamp to dispose of bodies and because of how shadowy arrests have been, I doubt they’re keeping good records of inmates.

    People are going to disappear

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      but hopefully for the last time

      That’s what they said last time. “Never again” etc.

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      People give me shit for getting hung up on specifics, but remember that the majority of Germans really didn’t know what was going on at the camps till the very end of the war when they were shown film evidence of camps being liberated.

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      This is also pretty much incorrect. They might not have known specifics or scale necessarily, but if you read interviews RIGHT AFTER the war, pretty much everybody in German territory at least knew someone who had been dragged off to a camp, at gunpoint usually, and their house and possessions put up for auction literally within a week. After two or three of these, you get the message.

      They knew, by and large, that these people were not coming back. These concentration camps were outside Germany, but many, if not most, Germans figured it out for themselves. Many were simply willing to put it aside because Depression Weimar was like Revolutionary France, and people were willing to take the first strongman that came across and said “hey I KNOW how we need to fix this, and it starts with THOSE GUYS whose fault it all is”.

      The film evidence was for the core of the core of the empire - Berlin, Munich, etc, where your average citizen might’ve been afforded protection from the watching the nice Goldschmidt family marched out of their house, and for posterity so people couldn’t do what people in the US were already trying to do with the Native American genocide and chattel slavery.

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      Alligator Auschwitz

      Bum-Fuck Buchenwald

      Crocodile Kraków

      DeSantis Dachau

      Everglades Esterwegen

      Gator Gross-Rossen

      Hillbilly Hinzert

      MAGA Mauthhausen

      Redneck Ravensbrüch

      South-Florida Sachsenhausen

      Trump Treblinka

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        Here are some scary facts about Treblinka: it was in operation for about 18 months, was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 civilian workers, executed people with the exhaust from a single salvaged Russian tank engine, and murdered about 900,000 people in total. People tend to assume that the Holocaust was a massive industrial-scale operation that used up a huge fraction of German resources, but in fact it was a remarkably low-cost operation for the most part. Even the transportation aspect largely made use of supply trains returning otherwise empty from the front. If Hitler had not been stopped militarily, Germany would have had no technical difficulty in carrying out his goal of literally exterminating the nearly 200 million people of the Soviet Union.

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    Where is united nations organisation ? Why are they not saying anything against USA policies ?

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      oh boy the UN sends another strongly worded letter.

      the UN is just a dog and pony show, they have no power at all, anywhere.

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      The UN has no power against the United States. The UN was setup to favor western powers and ideally prevent them from having direct war with one another again. Until the US bombs another Western country in the UN there is so reason to look to the UN for anything but empty condemnation.

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        Yes, they can veto, but others should at least be going on the record and REQUIRING the US to use its veto.

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        This is some of the stupidest shit I hear on a regular basis. All my childhood, we were taught the phrase ‘checks and balances’ and then you come across shit like this. No one thought about any one of the UN powers becoming a problem? Does no one plan for these systems designed to prevent abuse to be… abused? “Sorry. Can’t tell them to stop the genocide. Go ask your mother.” Complete enabling bullshit.

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    I don’t actually want to say this but the USA was founded on genocide. It literally killed the native americans to take their land, same as hitler attempted to do with the polish people.

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    Had trump not pretended to want to reopen Alcatraz and everyone rightly thought he was a fool. I imagine how outraged everyone would have that he actually build this concentration camp in Florida. Instead it was reduced to a mere pun.

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      Oh no, he’s still trying to do that. It was one of the first things he ordered the Bureau of Prisons to do. He posted about it a few days ago, this time talking about somehow surrounding it with sharks (because of course).

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      Because they want everyone to use their name for it. Magats love that name. It hides what it really is and lends a celebratory air to the base at the same time as an intimidating effect to potential victims. Remember, they want people to ‘self-deport’ and this is part of that strategy, in addition to its obvious use. So they’re going to make more places like this with more names like this.

      Don’t help them. Don’t go along with what they want. Resist them in every way possible, including not using their terminology–whether it’s what they call concentration camps or what they call the bills they pass, like the huge hideous bill signed yesterday.

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    THEY’RE SELLING MERCHANDISE LIKE IT’S A GODDAMN AMUSEMENT PARK! HUMANITY HAS FAILED! WE ARE A FAILED SPECIES AND WILL PROBABLY GO EXTINCT FROM THE SELFISHNESS AND GREED OF A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE POPULATION

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      So… the rest of us aren’t perfect but IDK if id say “humanity” has failed. America certainly seems that way.

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      hey don’t rope the rest of the world in with your fuck up. Humanity hasn’t failed, you failed. Americans failed. Just because I live above a Nazi Bar doesn’t mean I go down there to have a pint. Fuck at this point if I did your SS would probably arrest me.

      So stop being a bunch of Nazi’s that you claim you aren’t and go start rebelling.