• jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, I’m going to call bullshit on this.

    If it were some super important building, there’s no way it was constructed in secret. There would be satellite photos, other photos, there’s no way you hide a 30’ saucer while doing a major construction like that.

    The reason he won’t tell you the country or the building is that he doesn’t want to get proven wrong by a 2 second Google search.

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      I definitely understand this perspective. It’s definitely a logical thought process.

      To play devil’s advocate, what if construction occurred prior to satellite imagery? Operating under the assumption this is real, I’d imagine an object that large would’ve crashed a long time ago, prior to mass global communication.

      Or, as you’ve previously stated, it’s all BS.

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        Even if it were before satellite photos, there would still be construction photos, blueprints, and diagrams.

        Here’s a link to 1,240 photos of the Empire State Building construction which was 1930-1931:

        https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/empire-state-building-construction

        There’s really no reason to not say the country or the building other than “Yeah, no, it’s a public building, here’s literally everything we know about it…”

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          And before photography, survey drawings, plot plans, etc.

          The only place you could get away with “built something over it” is a remote location where people people don’t hang around. Or a military base not required to follow normal, civic regulations.

          You could guess it was something built in antiquity, but construction in those times could take generations (e.g. cathedrals). Anything built hastily would use material that degraded quickly, or collapsed (e.g. rapidly constructed stone walls tend to get out of plumb and fall down).

          Edit: by remote location I also mean a place no one would think up request satellite imagery of. If it were in a snow covered location maybe you could cover something with white tarps then build a structure over it but even the most elementary of large buildings require trades people to do anything. How many? Lots. Or it takes forever and that in itself is a problem.

          There’s another possibility here. The object could have been found in a mine. You could imagine closing a mine down very quickly and sending everyone home because it was unsafe for some plausible reason. Then you build a security perimeter around it (fencing to keep people out, it’s unsafe). Then you add surveillance and wait until the world forgets. Still you eventually need to have people going back in. And we are back to the original problem.

          While I do think it’s possible there’s a building like this, I think we’ll be surprised when it’s revealed (I am not holding my breath).

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      See, this is why he won’t say the country or the building.

      We know what was there before the opera house, because the whole thing is well documented:

      https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/sydney-opera-house-construction-photos-03.webp

      From here:

      https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/sydney-opera-house-construction-photos/

      It’s a fascinating read BTW. Construction was in three phases from 1958 to 1973.

      https://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/our-story/construction-begins

      "Two major problems confronted the engineers in their approach to Stage One. First, the geology of Bennelong Point had not been surveyed accurately at the time of the competition guidelines. It had been assumed that the promontory comprised Hawkesbury sandstone mass, like the surrounding land; whereas in fact, it was made of loose alluvial deposits permeated with seawater and completely unsuitable for bearing the weight of the intended structure.

      Some 700 steel-cased concrete shafts, nearly 1 metre each in diameter, were bored down into the perimeter and northern half of the site. Mass concrete foundations filled in the unstable rock in the central area of the site. This preparatory work had not been budgeted for, setting the building on a course of extended overruns beyond its estimated cost of 3.5 million pounds.

      The second major problem related to the as yet unknown weight of the roof, which would change dramatically in the coming years. The anchor points of the roof were at this stage only vaguely discernible; the load they would have to bear was unknown."

      😳

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    1 year ago

    I’ll play.

    Either McMurdo or Palmer stations in Antarctica. Would fit lots of threads that have been planted out there (looking at you Fox Maulder and John Carpenter).

    And would definitely cause an international incident given its international legal status.

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      I did work with an astrophysics PhD (not in this field, more like a data analyst) who had worked there (Antarctica).

      I jokingly (well, not really!) asked him if he knew where the UFOs were and he said they would put ufo stuff in log entries “as a joke”.

      The response was not "UFOs? What?’ he was well aware of the various beliefs and so on. He changed the subject after that.

      I want to stress we were in a workplace just chatting before getting down to business. I am not implying in any way he was hiding anything but he was definitely aware of this stuff and dismissed it with a joke. Found that interesting.