French President Emmanuel Macron said it would be “madness” to ignore the threat Russia has become for Europe and said he is open to discussing the extension of France’s nuclear deterrence to Paris’s European allies.

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    28 minutes ago

    The fact that us Canada are asking France and the UK for nuclear umbrella because of the US is a crazy time-line. Charles De Gaulle was right about the US and NATO.

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        Preemptive defense is just a fancy way of saying first strike.

        And if you’re going to do a first strike against russia, you need a lot of capacity. A lot. You basically have to destroy nuclear assets in three hemispheres at the same time. Not including the oceans.

        First strike is a great tool against asymmetric adversaries, but peer or near peer adversaries it’s not an option

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    5 hours ago

    Viva la France!

    But we cannot expect France to shoulder the entire burden. Other European nation should consider developing their own weapons as well.

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    France also has political groups opposed to this and with government options. We need a European nuclear button, not a national one with promises, nor 27 national buttons. One. European. Everything else will lead us to more war later.

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        3 hours ago

        well, the nuclear launch protocol varies between powers, but I suppose it would have to be the chief of the executive in some kind of according with a high military chief

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    12 hours ago

    Seems good. I trust France more to work in the interest of Europe than I trust the US. Because a safer Europe is in the interest of France. The US can just move on, France is right here.

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        Macron is a neoliberal d*** to his people, which is why there is so much unrest in France. He blocked a center-left majority coalition in favor of forcing a center-right coalition that since failed, after pulling the same snap-election stuff that got the Brexit in the UK.

        Macron is the epitome of the rich exploiting the rest. It is just that he understands that EU is central to maintaining his rich friends assets.

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          43 minutes ago

          Are you from France? Or just another “socialist” that spends all their time attacking world leaders that are opposed to fascism?

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    Which of France’s allies truly believes that, in the event of an imminent threat of conflict with a nuclear power, France would be willing to defend an ally? Given France’s history of double standards and frequent shifts in stance, such a commitment seems highly questionable.