Why do serie A teams always act like they’re broke?
It’s the third richest league.high debt, low Stadium revenenuees, and overall poor market value abroad
And also no help from the state or city major, on the countrary they will try everything to stop the clubs to build a new stadium ( really hated Virginia Raggi useless for the city and for the club)
Broke is relative and one always strives for the top, compared to the Premier league, Bayern, Real and Barca we are poor.
TBF, everyone outside the Premier League, Real, Barcelona and PSG is kinda broke. If we are talking about straight up financial problems, the big teams fucked up a lot of decisions in past years and they’re paying the toll now, and the smaller teams see a much reduced slice of that cake than the bigger teams, so they take less money than you’d think.
Real and especially Barcelona don’t have that much money and even PSG if you only look at the club is losing a lot of money. Only middle table teams are sometimes not broke.
Should be noted that these are domestic broadcast deals only.
Wait how can the English fans pay so much more than the other fans from their respective countries to justify this difference in revenue domestically? I thought the premier league had an edge solely due to the much larger foreign market
Na, this was always built on us being rinsed first and foremost. I have no idea why we accept this, the only reason Germany doesn’t make as much is because they won’t accept this shit.
There’s a lot of shit German fan’s won’t just accept. I’ve found that a lot of English fans think that every other nation is jealous of their league but that’s definitely not the case in Germany. They want their league to avoid the mistakes of English football while other nations try to copy it.
Preying on addiction. The English can’t live without football.
It costs £740 annually to subscribe to all the services currently showing PL matches, so about €900. That’s not an insurmountable expenditure for someone with a decent job in any European country, although it certainly stings a bit.
900 per year is insane to me. Yes, it’s affordable for a lot of people, but I can’t imagine paying that much just out of principle.
This. I live in Serbia and I pay 10 euros a month approximately for sports channel that broadcasts literally every PL game lmao I know my country is poor, but paying that amount of money to watch domestic league is wild
Tbf that gets you more than just sports, will get you the whole of sky broadcasting.
Wow, as if there are so many things at sky that are interesting other than football.
In Italy It got worse Dazn was already too expensive for the quality it offer but now they have increase they price even more.
As an American, that’s pretty cheap.
I’m paying about $170 a month for the cable package and three streaming services necessary.
The full sky package + TNT + amazon prime I believe works it more than $170 in the UK, although you do get the other sky sports channels and probs Internet with it . I’m not sure how much they charge the pubs for it , but there’s a lot of sports pubs in the uk .
I don’t know many who even pay for it all, most of my mates have a dodgy firestick
20quid a month for all sky sports on nowtv. Quite regularly offer those deals. Thats about 75% of the matches covered. And you only need it for 10 months.
a bit.
to put it lightly. Its a fairly insane amount, especially given that its basically the equivalent of every streaming platform i can think of
F that man. Thats way too much whether people can afford it or not
Somebody needs to show Tebas this the next time he starts waffling about Prem being “the doped up league”. Having a very beneficial TV deal isn’t “doping”, it’s just having an attractive product and good negotiators…
Nah, here’s this horrible high interest deal that he will get a cut of.
Ah yes, the more sustainable solution.
It’s called rinsing your fanbase and getting away with it, I genuinely don’t know why we accept paying these prices. From what I’ve previously seen though Spain is domestically similar in that regard, its just a much smaller economy.
So Spain will never be able to make as much domestically but i won’t champion people getting absolutely ripped off and gouged as a positive for this or any league.
Imagine being soo shit, Bundesliga is making more money domestically than you, Tebas, at it again being shit.
You’re talking as if the Bundesliga is some amateur league lmao.
Also I think the fact that Germany, as a country, is richer and more populated than Spain might contribute to this, although it’s true that La Liga could be up there with the PL if they actually took advantage from the Messi-Ronaldo era to get a better TV deal
Domestically they absolutely could not.
Maybe I was exaggerating, but you can’t deny that their TV deal haven’t been that good for a league which had Messi and Ronaldo for years
Population:
- Germany: 83m
- Spain: 47m
GDP per capita
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Germany: 51.200 US Dollars
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Spain: 30.100 US Dollars
And considering that pretty much fussball is popular in Germany as much as futbol in Spain I’d be very surprising if it would be otherwise.
Considering the german domestic TV deal is for Buli and 2.Buli then I’m still quite surprised that Bundesliga is on pair with La Liga given both Germany’s population and GDP are almost TWICE as Spain which means there are MORE people willing to watch football and willing to spend MORE money given their higher salaries compared to Iberia.
The real standing for the domestic TV rights considering the quality of the league, GDP, population and soccer popularity in a certain country the standing should be: EPL >> Bundesliga > Serie A = Spain = Ligue 1
Well done Javier Tebas.
Actually German “should” be first, it’s a bigger economy but people won’t accept being gouged there, its for no lack of loving football if anything I would say the opposite. The culture over here accepts this bullshit way too easily and its horrible.
You’re not taking into account the whole Latin American market that shares the same language. Not as much to do with Tebas as simply sharing the same language as a much bigger marker. Same can be said about the Premiee League.
Why would one take into account foreign market when the conversation is about domestic deals…?
These deals are domestic league contracts, as in not including international games. Go look at source one on the wikipedia sources for the chart. Pague 75 Inthink it was has the chart with the length and revenues for domestic and international broadcasting and the numbers add to the total on thr Wikipedia charts.
German deal is for 2 leagues
It’s also only 18 teams and fewer matches for a league that is supposed to be less popular. I see what you are saying though.
the question is why the difference isn’t bigger in favor of the Bundesliga, considering Germany is way bigger (+35 millions) and way richer (three times the GDP).
popularity kicks in with the foreign deals, which puts the spanish league way ahead of the Bundesliga.
I’m guessing language has a lot to do with it. All of the latin american language is pulled towards the Spanish league.
I’m sure the guy is talking about why Germany isn’t further ahead of la liga in the graph since Germany is a richer country therefore people would more likely pay more for football domestically. Which the graph is demonstrating domestic license, so no matter how many countries speak Spanish, Germany ought to be further ahead of LaLiga by that logic regardless
“DAZN - all matches”
Living the dream in italy.
I doubt that they gotta pay like 80 bucks per month to watch what they want?
Great to see at least one that has all matches on a single broadcaster. Too bad DAZN has become worse (ads, lags) and more expensive too
they are free to charge whatever they want as much as i am free to ride the wild see, cuz a pirate is free!
all joke aside, i bought a yearly subscription to DAZN, the quality was always abysmalv(Low bitrate for the videos, app crashing, video stopping mid action) so i opted for less legal free option and can watch the matches with a higher quality. If my connection can handle to watch full HD videos with a VPN, then it should be able to play the fucking DAZN, THAT I FUCKING PAID FOR!!!
I know those options too and they have become really bad, too. The first 10 options are all using the same source so if one isnt working, none are. Sometimes theyre 5 minutes behind, sometimes they say its game X but actually all streams are a different game…
So its not like that life is good either. Id gladly pay 50 bucks per month if it was all games in the same spot. But thats wishful thinking these days
Now…guess what sort of deal the absolute geniuses who run Scottish Football managed to secure us?
Starting in 2024 - Our deal is worth £150m - OVER 5 YEARS!!
£30m a season for 5 years split between 12 teams.
The genuis of Neil Doncaster, who proudly negotiated this deal and refused to tender the rights for an offer so he accepted the first deal offered to him and made a fat bonus on top.
He is also the guy that wrote a 2 year Notice period into his own contract if he was to ever resign or get £800k to terminate his contract.
This is how pathetic and corrupt the people running Scottish football are.
30 million pound per season for 4 matches ain’t that bad.
Any graph that talks about foreign TV deals available? Serie A gets 205 million each year from them, I’d like to compare with the other leagues
The numbers I found were: PL £1.4bn, LaLiga £815m, Serie A £337, Bundesliga £218m, Ligue 1 £73m. If you add domestic and foreign, you get the PL at £3.1bn, LaLiga £1.9bn, Bundesliga £1.3bn, Serie A £1.2bn and Ligue 1 with £1.1bn.