• Balance-@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    CPU is impressive.

    Their GPU is fighting toe-to-toe with the Apple M2.

    Considering:

    • They use very fast 8533 MT/s memory, giving them 33% memory bandwidth than Apple’s 6,400 MT/s on the M2;
    • Apple’s TDP (20 watt) is likely lower than both configurations 23W and 80W “Device TDP”
    • They choose the benchmarks;
    • The Snapdragon X Elite will launch mid 2024;
    • The Apple M2 will 2 years old then;

    I’m not that impressed by the Snapdragon X Elite’s GPU.

    The M2 Pro already beats it hard (it has both twice GPU cores and twice the memory bandwidth of the M2), and the M3 will most likely beat is as well.

    Let alone the M3 Pro.

    Then AMD will release their Strix Point APU also likely in the first half of 2024 - increasing the GPU core count by 33% (from 12 to 16).

    Intel’s Meteor Lake’s iGPU, called Xe-LPG, also looks promising.

    So as Ryan said:

    Ultimately, the 6+ month gap until retail devices launch means that the competition for Qualcomm’s upcoming SoC isn’t going to be today’s chips such as the Apple M2 series or Intel’s various flavors of Alder/Raptor Lake. Almost everyone is going to have time to roll out a new generation of chips between now and then. So while Qualcomm’s SoC may be ready right now, we’ve yet to see what they’ll be competing against in premium devices. That doesn’t make today’s benchmark disclosure any less enlightening, but it means that Qualcomm is aiming at a moving target – beating Apple, AMD, or Intel today is not a guarantee that it’ll still be the case in 6 months.

    Let’s do some new benchmarks in 6 months!

    That being said, it’s great to see more competition in the laptop SoC market. I hope Qualcomm also pushes competitors on their wireless capabilities: 5G should be an option on almost every laptop.

    • UsefulBerry1@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      On the contrary I am really excited for this Chip. Sure M2 pro beats but those start at 1.8k-1.9k and laptop with dgpu is a very different category (also qualcomm says X Elite will support dgpu). If anything, Windows on Arm, it’s software support and hardware options will get a huge boost. Also, I am not holding my breath for anything from Intel at this point. Every time they promise but efficiency is still lowest. I was optimistic when they introduced little-big arch, but it was meh 😑

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    1 year ago

    Well see how it rolls later. Mac chips look strong, but they still can’t do 90% of the things I need from a chip. so It could be 9000000000000000000000000000000 score and still be useless.

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      1 year ago

      I imagine a lot of optimization will be applied before release, seeing as it’s still months away. Hopefully, they’ll ditch the fan entirely in the lower watt model. Altogether, it’s good to have competition against Apple in battery life and sustained performance on battery.

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    1 year ago

    Interestingly the X Elite doesn’t even support hardware accelerated ray tracing which even the 8 Gen 2 supported.

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      1 year ago

      Likely they’re either targeting laptops which don’t need GPU power like productivity/business class machines, or they expect to have OEMs pair them with dGPUs if need be.

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        1 year ago

        In barely a year, hardware ray tracing will be part of virtually every x86 consumer CPU being sold. People do more than game with their computers.

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    1 year ago

    really impressive scores, we are in for a huge change in the PC market if this succeeds, now we wait for the battery life benchmarks and performance on battery.

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      1 year ago

      Given that both Nvidia and AMD have announced ARM based chips for Windows, the market is changing dramatically whether QC is a success or not