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Mostly the the “do you have” “No.” “Good!” (and “if you can’t find x” “use carbon-fiber x!”). So the pacing is off but the key part is the conversation being 1-sided. And also not having the tools/situation to even take the small step, at least for those with a metaphorically-half-sunken type life.
Some of that is where/how I live, that even bowling alone is a tad too optimistic of an activity.
I’m sorry to hear that. As someone who once went through a fairly prolonged bout of agoraphobia when I was younger, I can understand being in a state of mind that would be a roadblock to those smaller steps. The self-care suggestion from the video is tangentially related to beginning to address that issue, but for that context, it certainly would come off as a case of ‘then draw the rest of the fucking owl’.
However, I’m not sure that invalidates the advice of the video, it’s just that some people are not at a point where it is applicable.
The topic of helping people get out of debilitating depressions, agoraphobia or other blockers I think deserves its own subject. A video may be helpful, but for those situations, therapy or good friends would likely help the most, though I also understand for many, those aren’t a readily available option. I personally didn’t have access to either when I was agoraphobic. I was stuck in that position until I took a very uncomfortable plunge into forcing myself to be amongst a social group (who happened to be quite kind) to begin to claw my way out of it.
Based on that, I have a fairly positive view of exposure therapy as a way of becoming more comfortable being social and around a group. Though it can seem impossibly daunting at first. It seemed to work well for me, but perhaps a different method would work better for you (especially if it’s depression).
I do hope I’m reading your message correctly, and I’m not going totally off rails here misinterpreting what you meant 😅
I do hope I’m reading your message correctly, and I’m not going totally off rails here misinterpreting what you meant 😅
Well, I wasn’t talking about agoraphobia. Instead, living in a sparse area (no car, not really spending money either) on top of other issues.
I’ve actually gone out on my bike (when I had some arbitrary destination reachable by the trail and things actually lined up) more than a few times, but I didn’t see much (if any) social opportunity there. The more dense direction I can go to is further away and is a tourist town (so, probably more expensive than I’d hope, then again maybe that’s just how it is everywhere).
Ah, my mistake! By lacking the tools or situation, I thought you were meaning mentally, and perhaps lived in a deep red area. Being physically isolated by sheer distance and lack of mobility hadn’t entered my mind.
Depending on the size of the tourist town, it may have an active mutual aid organization you could check out if it’s not too far away. You wouldn’t need any money to participate in one of those, and it can be a great way to meet like-minded people who share your values, and hopefully form some connections or friendships.
The besides the methods mentioned in the link from my first response, you could try searching the tourist town’s name + mutual aid to see if anything pops up, or perhaps a Food Not Bombs.
Mostly the the “do you have” “No.” “Good!” (and “if you can’t find x” “use carbon-fiber x!”). So the pacing is off but the key part is the conversation being 1-sided. And also not having the tools/situation to even take the small step, at least for those with a metaphorically-half-sunken type life.
Some of that is where/how I live, that even bowling alone is a tad too optimistic of an activity.
I’m sorry to hear that. As someone who once went through a fairly prolonged bout of agoraphobia when I was younger, I can understand being in a state of mind that would be a roadblock to those smaller steps. The self-care suggestion from the video is tangentially related to beginning to address that issue, but for that context, it certainly would come off as a case of ‘then draw the rest of the fucking owl’.
However, I’m not sure that invalidates the advice of the video, it’s just that some people are not at a point where it is applicable.
The topic of helping people get out of debilitating depressions, agoraphobia or other blockers I think deserves its own subject. A video may be helpful, but for those situations, therapy or good friends would likely help the most, though I also understand for many, those aren’t a readily available option. I personally didn’t have access to either when I was agoraphobic. I was stuck in that position until I took a very uncomfortable plunge into forcing myself to be amongst a social group (who happened to be quite kind) to begin to claw my way out of it.
Based on that, I have a fairly positive view of exposure therapy as a way of becoming more comfortable being social and around a group. Though it can seem impossibly daunting at first. It seemed to work well for me, but perhaps a different method would work better for you (especially if it’s depression).
I do hope I’m reading your message correctly, and I’m not going totally off rails here misinterpreting what you meant 😅
Well, I wasn’t talking about agoraphobia. Instead, living in a sparse area (no car, not really spending money either) on top of other issues.
I’ve actually gone out on my bike (when I had some arbitrary destination reachable by the trail and things actually lined up) more than a few times, but I didn’t see much (if any) social opportunity there. The more dense direction I can go to is further away and is a tourist town (so, probably more expensive than I’d hope, then again maybe that’s just how it is everywhere).
Ah, my mistake! By lacking the tools or situation, I thought you were meaning mentally, and perhaps lived in a deep red area. Being physically isolated by sheer distance and lack of mobility hadn’t entered my mind.
Depending on the size of the tourist town, it may have an active mutual aid organization you could check out if it’s not too far away. You wouldn’t need any money to participate in one of those, and it can be a great way to meet like-minded people who share your values, and hopefully form some connections or friendships.
The besides the methods mentioned in the link from my first response, you could try searching the tourist town’s name + mutual aid to see if anything pops up, or perhaps a Food Not Bombs.