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Putting 8Gb of ram in any laptop computer in todays market is a fucking insult to it’s users, let alone someone paying the Apple price tag.
You’re comparing it wrong - Apple
I just don’t understand. Memory is somewhat cheap. It just looks like a cheap tactic to upsell an entry level config.
I think people forget that Apple don’t seem to think of the average pro user. The 8GB model in my eyes is made for the average non pro user who wants the pro experience at the lowest price. I feel Apple thinks of the pro user as the lucky few that can fully spec it and charge it to their employer, their company or a client. Similar to the Mac Pro and its terribly priced wheels. I feel Apple to a degree has lost touch with its low to mid range pros that only have their hard earned cash to spend. I suppose for the length of time they survive compared to the competition the price is worth it. It should have more ram, but I’d still pay 1600 for that model as a light user. I chose the 16” M2 Pro with 16GB
Apple being Apple
I remember two years ago all the tech influencers were recommending to buy the new m1 mac mini and that ram doesn’t matter with an M1 chip. They told us that 8GB would be enough even for heavy work due to the swapping feature (8GB was the only option back then).
Non M owner here, isn’t the RAM in these machines a faster type of RAM since it’s used as both system memory and VRAM? And if it’s faster then normal RAM is that why the M machines do good even at 8GB compare to 16GB of slower normal RAM?
Short answer… yes. SOC architecture allows for equivalent performance with better power efficiency, meaning better performance with equivalent power efficiency.
It is normal RAM. There’s nothing special about LPDDR5X now. They do share it between CPU and GPU, that brings some advantages in that both can access the memory, but some disadvantages compared to dedicated VRAM as your GPU can now eat a chunk of that 8GB. Window Server is using 1.5GB RAM for me right now. That’s essentially memory all used by the GPU to render macOS’ UI.
This greedy behavior was one of the reasons why I didn’t buy a Macbook this year. They want 3k€ for a 16" Macbook Pro with 18GB of RAM and 512GB of storage. Samsung offered a laptop pretty similar with OLED, 120HZ, touchscreen and mostly similar specs. The only downside was the worse chip and worse battery life but I don’t need this power so it was fine for me. If you think about the specs, you would think that there wouldn’t be a huge price difference, but I only paid 1500€ for a device, that has despite the processor/battery life no huge downgrades. It even has a touchscreen. Apple just got greedy, especially when a 8GB, 512GB 14" MB Pro costs a couple hundred € more than Samsung’s 16" 360° laptop. Can’t wait for Arm on Windows cause it would get Apple to finally start a normal pricing again.
It’s not if a basic thing as ram means for tasks its inadequate for the pro moniker. Save that 8gb nonsense for the entry level air or better yet, get with the time
Really, the M3 “Pro” makes no sense at all…if you spend $400 more, you get 18GB of RAM AND the M3 Pro chip!
The only people that should even consider the base models are those that “live in the cloud” and do super basic tasks (emails, short word documents, and stream a video here and there). Everyone else should definitely go for a Mac with at least 16GB of RAM.
8GB on a pro laptop is just dumb. M
In their defence, I definitely consider myself a basic Mac user, and the 8Gb MacBook Air M2 is more than adequate
If you are a power user who uses resource inventive apps like Gmail or YouTube you’re going to need to upgrade your ram.
The whole point is to say “ u can buy one at a good price” knowing no one will buy it.