Looks less and less like “worst of the worst” and has always been “brownest of the brown”.

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    People on the right believe every immigrant is the worst of the worst. They don’t even understand the difference between a crime and a civil issue.

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    Tax payers. They arrested 75,000 tax payers. Oddly enough if they arrested the 75,000 richest Americans, it would have a smaller negative impact on overall income tax revenue.

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    And we will never see 96.9% of them ever again. tRump and Project 2025 are killing/imprisoning/disappearing them “legally”. 🤷‍♂️

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        Arrests usually come with certain expectations such as a court date. When you’re picked up off the street and then immediately moved shipped out of the country, then I’d call it kidnapping.

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          But you’re not immediately shipped out of the country. How it really works isn’t much better, but it’s important to be clear about how they do this. They get taken to temporary jails which have horrible conditions and they they have legal right to appear in court. But because these courts take a long time and the jail is inhumane, many people “choose” to accept the demand of leaving the country.

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      Entering the country illegally or staying too long is the same thing as rape and murder according to this administration.

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      Technically speaking, when you enter a country illegally without going through the process to get a green card, then it’s illegal. Sorry but that’s fact and if you think it isn’t, welp, you must really see the rules and laws far differently than what most see it as.

      I mean, you try going to any other country without a visa or passport, they’ll deem you the same too.

      Sorry but little meaningless downvotes don’t change facts either. : )

      Okay it really feels like people are just getting unnecessarily emotional and going for the jugular vein for no reason other than to be antagonistic so I’m just going to be blocking from now on.

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        Not every law is just or sensible. “It’s illegal” is a far weaker claim than “it’s morally wrong” or similar. People conflate the two.

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        Most people who are here without authorization entered legally and simply never left. Overstaying a visa is a serious infraction and can be grounds for being deported, but is not a crime.

        So it simply isn’t true to say that all these people are criminals.

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          Ugh, people and their emotionally overcharged and erratic misguided understanding of reality around them.

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        Dotard Trump blocked normal channels for claiming asylum (claiming asylum is legal), forcing people to cross to border at alternate points to escape death.

        He had his ghouls then arrest them for crossing illegally. Fuck off.

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        What would I do to save my family from violence and poverty… jump a border? Of fucking course I would.

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        Technically, when you speed 1 mile an hour over the limit you have broken the law. It’s also a civil infraction, just like illegal immigration, in America.

        I hope you never ever go over. We should send you straight to prison, no trial. You’re guilty, you law breaking fuckwad stain on society!

        You’re ok with that scenario, right?

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        Please be sure to block me. If you don’t understand the massive chasm between the shit you just parroted and what’s actually happening with lack of due process or any kind of hearings, then I need to be on your block list.

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        Technically, yes, that’s illegal according to laws some people in power made up. I don’t think that’s the question here though. Does it make you a criminal? Because that’s quite a big word and it’s used to manipulate people into thinking illegals are thugs. On vacation I stole a glass from a bar that pissed me off and I got a souvenir. When I drive I also sometimes break the law. Does this make me a criminal? If so I’m pretty sure by far most people are, no matter how law obedient they seem.

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          We live in a society of countless byzantine laws. It’s literally impossible to obey every single law 100% of the time.

          In this context, the term criminal loses all meaning.

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          I’m pretty sure like 90% of the population has broken traffic laws and also drank alcohol underage at some point

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        When passports and visas were created they were widely decried as government tyranny and promised to be a temporary wartime measure. And yet now people accept them as normal.

        If you think the government should control my personal freedom to travel then please justify that. Otherwise, fuck laws that infringe freedom without adequate justification.

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        Either way, it’s different than what Trump was saying he was going to do. All they were talking about was violent criminals, not people that were valuable members of the community. Now that’s all they’re getting is the valuable community members.

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        I don’t think that’s true. I believe there was one guy who stole a truck and went across state boundaries?

        There are probably a few that have been arrested so far, and I wish the media would report in this. The narrative should make it clear that they’re criminals, yet the efforts to stop their activities are lacking

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          I thought OP meant “arrested for official actions”, there have been ICE members arrested for other crap, mostly due to them hiring anyone with a pulse.

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    I mean, a criminal record really doesn’t mean much. Serial jaywalking by a college during the first week of summer quarter will net you plenty of citations, but I see nothing wrong with it.