No he shouldn’t. No non-QB should ever win MVP in today’s NFL.
MVP? The way Bland is playing Garrett isn’t even getting DPoY never mind MVP.
Have you seen Maxx Crosby’s numbers? The Cowboy’s are in a position to do more than the Raiders, but a simple nod of respect is not out of order.
Garret for MVP, Bland for DPOY
How bout we wait until the end of year b/4 we vote on MVP? Browns could completely miss playoffs
Yeah I guess we could just not talk about the season and the games upcoming until the season’s over if that’s what you’d prefer
I’d prefer to talk about how the Chiefs are overrated this year, their WR’s suck & Kelce is showing his age. They’re gonna have a tough time running through AFC.
Garrett ain’t winning MVP. It’s silly to talk about lack of MVP favorites w/ 7 games left in season. CMC, Purdy, Hurts, Hill, Lamar…lots of guys could go on a tear & win still
Interesting and irrelevant thing to say about a team that beat yours two games ago
Hard to tell if the Chiefs are overrated before the end of the year, how bout we wait until the season is over before passing that judgement?
Hard to tell if Kelce is going to rebound or not. How bout we wait until the end of the season to see it all in context?
Hard to tell if Garrett is a legit contender for MVP or not. How bout we wait until the final games are played before saying anything?
Hard to tell if your post had any point at all. How about we wait for a few more replies to see if there’s anything worthwhile at all to talk about in any capacity on any topic at any level of seriousness in the next 4 months before the season ends?
Lord
If garrett wins this award when JJ watt couldn’t do it after scoring touchdowns too on offense. I’ll be salty ngl
If they so good why did colts hang a 38 piece on em???
MVP really needs to be split between QBs and everyone else.
MVQB isn’t a bad idea.
Simple - MVP and NVP
MVP goes to the best non-QB every year, NVP goes to Trubisky every year. System’s rock-solid
Most Outstanding Player Award
MOP
If we had that award wouldn’t they just win the dpoy or opoy as well?
You might already know this since you brought up the title, but the CFL literally does this and it’s awesome.
It still ends up being a QB most of the time, but not literally every time like the NFL
I’d go for OMVP and DMVP.
Is this sarcastic?
Only in the sense that I roll my eyes at most of these awards anyway.
Like OPOY and DPOY?
MVPotQB = Most Valuable Player other than Quarterback
This discussion me of an award r/Barca and r/Soccer had when Messi was at Barcelona. MotMotM = Man of the Match other than Messi. He was always the best player on the pitch but other players deserved credit too.
I vote we give Garrett MVP + DaRon Bland DPOY, no bias
After his pick six last night I’m worried Myles will miss another DPOY. Besides the INTs, has Bland been a shut down corner?
Yes, he’s been the top rated CB in football. Been a monster by every metric.
He’s played awful teams. I think Myles gets it if he doesn’t win MVP and Stroud should get MVP if Myles doesn’t.
Entering the game against Washington, he’d allowed more than 50 yards just once all season. 23 catches on 41 targets, 230 yards and 1 TD (that dime from Hurts to Devonta). Funnily enough, I think he allowed a decent amount of yards vs. the Commanders. (these are the Pro Football Reference numbers)
Was the PFF #1 ranked CB I believe going into last night
I’m not even kidding, this is how I feel.
MVP is Lamar or Myles, (or Jason Kelce in my dreams)
OPOY: CMC
DPOY: Bland
OROY: Stroud
DROY: Witherspoon/Carter
And it seems pretty obvious
Garrett isn’t even the best defensive player in the league. It’s Bland right now.
Getting pressures and sacks at the rate Garrett them isn’t as potent as the coverage and pick-6s Bland gets. The effect Bland has on the offense is greater than Garrett’s.
Sacks might not even end a drive. Pick sixes end drives and get points. The only more impactful play you could have than that is injuring the QB.
You can scheme away and behind the leagues best pass rushers and have success. If you scheme away from a CB, you’re shutting down half of the field on some plays.
WRs are better and more effective than ever before. Edge USED to be the most important position on D, now its Corner. We’re at a shift in the league thats been happening for the last couple years. Advanced analytics backs this up.
Also, whether you like it or not, QBs are more valuable than any other position by a mile and its not up for debate. It also doesn’t matter that there isn’t a clear-cut MVP in your eyes. Just because we don’t have guys chasing records every year doesn’t suddenly make Bland, Garret, Donald and Watt more valuable. You just want a cool story of a season so great it “almost” rises to as valuable as a QB. I hate that it’s a value award too, but I won’t lie to myself for narratives. Give us a most outstanding performance award or similar.
You might say consensus is changing on Edge being more important, but the salaries for edge rushers still are an order higher than CBs, and edges are still drafted higher more often.
Contract markets can take years to shift for one. Two, the flaw in that line of thinking is that obviously annual pay doesn’t equate to JUST your effect on the field, there are other factors like how it’s generally safer to invest in an edge guy because they can come back from injury easier, you lose a step at corner and your CAREER might be over. Same in the draft, they don’t just draft edge because of its importance, they draft them because they’re easier to scout and they are a WAY safer pick. I would do the same thing at the top of the draft.
Don’t bring up that all 5 pick sixes were in blowouts against horrible teams
Then why isn’t anyone else doing it?
The point is none of the pick-sixes even helped his team win. The picks aren’t that valuable if thats case. DPOY makes more sense.
I don’t see how Bland can get it without his end of season overall interception numbers being record breaking. The Pick 6 record is nice but I’d ultimately want to see total interceptions in the season way up there.
Warner > Garrett. Change my mind.
Dak if Daron doesn’t get another defensive TD. Gilmore won dpoy with 6 ints and two tds. Daron is already at 7 and 5 tds and best grade against among CBs with over 50 snaps
Gilmore didn’t win that DPOY because of his picks. He won it because he’d shut down half of the field. It takes a lot for a cb to win DPOY.
I don’t know man. Breaking longstanding NFL records with 6 games left in a season feels like a lot.
Bland’s cover stats are also great and Micah leads the league in pressures too btw
That’s right NFL QBs, Daron Bland is not a shutdown corner. Please keep throwing his way. Thank you.
Is he really that good? Surprised I haven’t heard his name til last night. They filled a massive hole with Diggs out.
Well, in all of NFL history no one has ever returned 5 interceptions for touchdowns in a single season and Bland did it in 11 games. As a backup.
Especially on out routes.
I think the point is not that Bland isn’t great, but that that reducing the conversation to purely those numbers - which is what the post u/DiseaseRidden was responding to is doing - is a disingenuous argument.
Gilmore has had a big role in the development of our CBs this year. Diggs said so after camp, and even Ceedee says he’s improved by facing Gilmore in practice.
Still can’t believe the Colts didn’t wait to trade Gilmore. Had to figure they could have gotten a little more at the deadline when teams lose guys due to injury/believe they are a corner away. Guy is still a solid corner and truly is one of those players that can make younger players better
I still think it’s insane that he wasn’t even a starter, came in after Diggs got hurt. That’s nuts
now imagine you had 4 games against that roster AND the Eagles roster every season. it’s a bad time to be in the NFCE as a non-Eagles/non-Cowboys fan
I’m pretty sure he was a starter, he came into the year as the Slot Corner. He moved to the outside because Diggs got hurt but the Cowboys play so much nickel and dime that he was basically a starter
I may be biased but if JJ Watt can’t win it breaking the sack record and scoring 6 touchdowns…
Only QBs can, mathematically, be MVPs
LOL 😂
No way.
Lamar Jackson is the MVP.
LJ isn’t even a top 5 candidate
He’s #2 behind Hurts at most sports books right now.
That has much more to do with where they want/need the public money and not about what his actual ranking is
That’s a weird way to spell DaRon Bland
Seriously he almost has half as many pick sixes in a little over half a season as Woodson had in his long career. If he gets to 6 or even 7, I think there will be a serious conversation about him. Thats half a hall of fame career in one year. It’s insanity.