• According-Cry9701@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Messi has been grabbing people by thd neck since 2005 like that and every player does shit like that i gont see what the problem is here naymar did it suarez did it cr7 did it and practically everyone else thats well known whos complaining about stupid shit like this, also rodrygo is a brat brazils police comniting police brutality and he goes to complain to messi and whine like a little kid about it… rodrygo and vini need to grow up their atitude is of a 6yo

  • AleArg99@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Damn I remember when Brazil used to shit on us, and we would shit on them, the matchs were pure violence, and for 2 hours we would hate each other, and the day after neither the Argentinian nor Brazilian people would be crying about that

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      1 year ago

      Because the hate that someone posts on the internet doesn’t get deleted after that 2 hours, so it continues circulating even after a match. As a Brazilian I don’t remember animosities being this high when I was a kid and didn’t had access to internet, but people chanting mono to Brazilians really gets viral on Brazilian internet, so people take it much more personally and get much more riled up than it used to.

      • AleArg99@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Yeah, but both sides became like that, Olé starts crying whenever a Brazilian player mocks us, they started a war with Richarlison (?), with that Gabriel Jesus gesture a lot of people started crying, I mean, of course Brazilians became waaaaaay more used to cry and complain these last years, but we haven’t been that much better TBH

        • bostero2@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, there has always been shithousery and it was all in good fun from both sides, but I think the media are putting pressure on the receiving end to respond now instead of taking it as a joke and laughing about it.

    • joaquimdoboiadeiroxo@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      People are too soft nowdays bro.

      The Brazilians and the Argentinian who care about Messi and Rodrygo trash talking are probably not even football fans.

      That’s what’s Brasil vs Argentina supposed to be.

      • Leomssm@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Are you sure? Like, I have seen countless times brazillians with Argentina’s jersey in here, no matter the season, but the other way around is a type of thing that would get you beaten to shit. I don’t know, this rivalry seems a bit one sided to me. The recent events makes me be seen wrong I know, but the burning rage was due to Argentina being WC champions.

        • A__paranoid_android@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          I believe you are a bit biased, we love brasilians here and wearing your jersey is pretty common. We actually take pride that we have such a good rival. Yeah, during the match we hate each other but I see it like siblings fighting. Sure, there are some cabezas de termo who actually hate the other country on both sides but it’s just a loud minority in my opinion.

    • EdCsc1914@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      As a brazilian Rodrygo should have kept his mouth shut. When Messi said “How are we cowards if we just won the world cup?”. Rodrygo should have said “Congrats in winning the WC, Messi, now your NT has the same number of WCs as Pelé”. Can’t even trash talk properly ffs.

    • fredbogho@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      No offense, but thats because for 27 years Argentina did nothing relevant. Now you guys are good again and the rivalry is reviving. Plus we are very bad now, so one more reason brazilians are pissed lol.

      • L_CRF@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Diz o torcedor do Boca Jrs kkkkkkkkkkkkkk a gente ganhou espelho em 1500 e vocês até hoje não, impressionante, patéticos.

          • L_CRF@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Perdona pa, no hablo ni un poco tu idioma

            1 real = 73,18 pesos.

            5 > 3.

            Putinha do Fluminense.

            Hope you understand this. Hugs.

            • ThatSmilingDude@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              Ay gordi hablan de economia en un sub de fútbol, los hicieron mierda Messi, Di Maria y Scaloni. Que bajo cayeron.

              Buenísimos los dvds del 2002, yo vi a Lio dar la vuelta en tu casa y en Qatar en 4K

              Felicidades al Flu por ganar su primera copa, cuando estén por la sexta mandame un mensajito.

  • nullmove@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    When is the next Brazil - Argentina game? I need to mark this on calendar. I am sure the 5 minutes of actual football that will happen will be glorious.

    • RamPamPam8@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Sadly you’ll have to wait till early 2025.

      Its either that or in the Copa América 2024, but them running into eachother requires more luck than anything

  • brycemoney@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Why is this even a topic? These crybabies can only suck Messi’s dick. They can never amount to his accomplishments. Fucking losers they all are.

  • Dino_-67@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I’m all for shit talking but don’t talk shit and then cry all over the internet when they talk shit back. That’s just embarrassing.

  • KingSolomon369@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Messi might be a great role model ever sometimesand the best ever , but just as Ronaldo he has his ego too, there are times where he is in the wrong , you can’t deny that

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    1 year ago

    So fans are getting beat up on the stands, Argentinian players make a stance and leave the field and get called cowards by the likes of Rodrygo and somehow Messi is the villain for calling him up.

    Thiee new Brazilian players are extremly unlikable

    • IrishOratoria@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I am not sure what his dad is trying to do here at all. Surely he is defending his son, but this was just one of the many arguments between players that happen every game or so.

      I mean you could make a poor argument for Rodrygo that he might have not realise how terrible the cops were acting at that time, but after the game there is no way his father didn’t see bleeding and comatose fans leaving the stadium on stretchers.

      • KeolXPr0n@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        he is trying to defend his son, he is going to get traction, the brazilian football fans are obviously united, and will give support.

        This whole situation is not that surprising, but it sure is good shit to watch.

      • dunneetiger@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        He could have thought that there is also the chance that the police are protecting another group of fans from hooligans ie it is fair.
        Also players shouldn’t leave the pitch without the consent of the ref.

    • Sente-se@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      He is saying that Messi is not the saint that he is treated as being as him grabbing the neck of two opositors clearly shows, which is true. I don’t see how Rodrygo doing what is pretty regular shit talking makes him unlikable either

    • Samp90@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      School ground stuff by Brazil. Everything always loses context in the noise and media starts just picking on high profile players for sensationalism.

    • KimngGnmik@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      They are both on the wrong here and anyone who can’t see that is seriously biased.

      Rodrygo should see what is going on in the stands. You can blame his age for being naive but at the end of the day what he said was wrong. A football game is never bigger than real situations going around. Its the same situation with Vini getting racially abused. No player should be complaining if the match is paused. He’s being a shitty human being here.

      On the other hand, Messi is fucking 36 year old and the way he grabs people is stupid and should be facing a couple of games suspension. And it’s also up to him as the senior player and leader on the pitch to explain to someone ~15 years younger about the situation and how he should be acting.

      The fact that Messi was even talking about how he’s the champion and how he won it there should show anyone that he is acting like a baby. He’s supposed to be a captain but his actions on the pitch looked like a school bully especially with De Paul being his bodyguard waiting to jerk him off the first second he got.

    • Marcelosouzadearaujo@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      You know that Argentina was beating the shit out of us the whole match like they always do.

      And Messi is always portraid as this nice guy but people who watch the matches know that he is not that nice.

      Argentinians are the worst out of all the south american teams to face because they hit you and them pretend that nothing happens.

      We, from South America know how these guys behave on and off the pitch.

      As for the police beating up argentinians, its terrible but they beat brazilians much worse, its Brazil nothing to do with beating up other fans.

      And remember, there were several fights between both sides before the police did anything.

    • triedby12@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      lol, Messi is clearly grabbing a throat in the picture. This is not professional, however you look at it. And I’ve seen him do it more than once. So stop protecting him like he is your god and can do no harm.

    • EdCsc1914@alien.topB
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      As a brazilian Rodrygo should have kept his mouth shut. When Messi said “How are we cowards if we just won the world cup?”. Rodrygo should have said “Congrats in winning the WC, Messi, now your NT has the same number of WCs as Pelé”. Can’t even trash talk properly ffs.

    • The_Pecking_Order@alien.topB
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      It’s funny, I don’t know if it was here at the beginning of the post or some other thread but godDAMN were quick to shit on Messi following this. So many people being like “he’s a cunt” “despicable human being” “I always knew he was horrible.”

      Like what?! Some people just love to hop on any bandwagon

    • boomjah@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Petulant prima donnas who were raised on the stories of Brazilian footballing supremacy and didn’t put in the work to maintain the legacy. The mighty have fallen and they’re just a shadow of their former selves now.

    • snemand@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Are all these suddenly ~20 year old millionaires unlikeable? Well I’ll be…

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      I mean we don’t know what Rodrygo and De Paul were saying before Messi came and situation escalated but ok. It’s still bunch of nothing between players, psychotic fans are the problem here. Level of abuse Rodrygo got is just not warrented.

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        1 year ago

        Pretty much.

        May as well ignore these comments (including his dad’s) because none of us are even close to having a full picture of everything that happened leading up to the moment.

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      Yeah, how do you call an entire team “shitters”, and when they respond to you they are now the bad guys?