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  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.workstoEnough Musk Spam@lemmy.worldElon's Folly
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    2 days ago

    Do you think “black and white” just means that I have an opinion that I feel is correct?

    You preclude the possibility of justice being obtained.

    How did you even possibly get this from what I’ve said? I feel that allowing free speech is justice.

    I’m sure it’s just everybody else being irrational right?

    Not one person has yet actually asked me to clarify my position. You’ve all only told me what I really mean. So yes - it is everyone else being irrational.



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    And you extrapolated that to “the possibility of injustice makes justice unobtainable”.

    If you really care - and I suspect you don’t because you’re just another lemmykin who just wants to jump on somebody who disagrees with you and “be right” - I’m saying the risk involved with state-sponsored censorship is higher than the risk associated with allowing misinformation to be spread.

    This is why I say the original case largely doesn’t matter - because my position doesn’t depend on the veracity of the claims being made. I’m arguing about what a state should and should not be allowed to do. Because the state is sometimes led by people who define truth very differently from how I would want.

    You think this translates to “the possibility of injustice makes justice unobtainable”???


  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.workstoEnough Musk Spam@lemmy.worldElon's Folly
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    you take the position that the possibility of injustice makes justice unobtainable

    Explain how that’s my position. Please use references to support your argument.

    Because that’s not my position. Nor have I stated it as my position. I recommend searching for the word “risk” when reading my prior comments.

    EDIT: Oh - sorry… I guess I’m just off-topic in here. ELON BAD LOL






  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.workstoEnough Musk Spam@lemmy.worldElon's Folly
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    It’s funny that you never even try to defend any of these accounts.

    Why would you think that I would? Have you not understood literally anything I’ve been saying?

    The best way to show that Brazil is in the wrong would be to show that the people being banned were posting true statements.

    What a remarkably simple view of the world you have. It’s like you think this is a sitcom plot. Do you want Musk to wear black and the judge to wear white so that you have an easier time recognizing who is the villain?

    As I said in my original post - both sides can be wrong. One side being wrong doesn’t make the other side right.


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    This thread is the one I started with my top-level comment that I invite you to read to know what you’re replying to.

    And just a bit of an FYI - people can discuss components of an article that don’t specifically relate to every part of the article. For example - I could raise the issue of “freedom of speech” and how it relates to any nation generally without discussing the specific case in Brazil. Isn’t that fun and interesting! Or would you rather I just circle-jerk “hur hur musk bad”?






  • I’d be tempted to just run it on port 443 so it looks like normal web traffic… Would raise fewer eyebrows than “what’s all this traffic going to some random port” (depending on how well the network is monitored - and it’s probably not well monitored at all). I’ve used ssh to do stuff like this in the past (use -D to enable a SOCKS proxy through a ssh tunnel).

    Frankly I’d be more concerned about the laptop itself being scanned depending on the spyware the school uses to monitor usage.