mutt wasn’t a thing on the system where I learned pine. The first version existed out in the world, but the sysadmin probably thought it too new to install if they’d heard of it at all. We had three choices: mailx, elm and pine. pine granted access to newsgroups - the system had an NNTP server - as well as e-mail so it was a no-brainer for most of us.
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Some middle-aged guy on the Internet. Seen a lot of it, occasionally regurgitating it, trying to be amusing and informative.
Lurked Digg until v4. Commented on Reddit (same username) until it went full Musk.
Was on kbin.social (dying/dead) and kbin.run (mysteriously vanished). Now here on fedia.io.
Really hoping he hasn’t brought the jinx with him.
Other Adjectives: Neurodivergent; Nerd; Broken; British; Ally; Leftish
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No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Meal Replacement Drink Suggestions?
1·8 hours agoIt’s not clear whether you’re replacing some or all of the sugar with an artificial sweetener or not. Some don’t work for some people and some may be unsuitable for medical reasons, but there might be one or two that work.
FWIW, I’ve been putting saccharin in my tea for years now. Not dead yet.
Some of us have been around long enough to have used pine as our main e-mail client, thus we learned to love pico and now we love nano.
Damn kids these days. Get off my lawn.
To flog this dead horse just a bit longer, micro is nearly seven times the size of nano, and Apple are clearly doing it wrong. Pointing an old name at a new thing is fine as long as there’s backward compatibility, but a new name at an old thing that doesn’t support the same features is a disservice to the old thing, the new thing and the user.
Then you want
nano -/which uses the modern key bindings. They’ve been in nano for a while now.For historical reasons, it doesn’t use them by default.
What extra features do you think it ought to have?
nano has supported syntax highlighting for a good long while, and for the Debian package at least, comes with a bunch of predefined languages in
/usr/share/nano/*.nanorc.I wouldn’t recommend it for large projects, but I’ve created and edited shell and Perl scripts with it plenty of times.
nano -xmay be more to your liking then. Ornano -0if you like being terrified.Hints: Ctrl+X still works to quit. Alt-Z and Alt-X toggle the title and the help respectively.
You can also use the toggles in regular
nanoto hide one or the other if you’re bothered by them.
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Programmer Humor@programming.dev•Getting inspiration for a fourth MFA method
5·12 hours agoThis tracks. If you think about it, any meal that might otherwise be the fourth method has transcended into being at least one of the other three.
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General Discussion@lemmy.world•How do you arrive at your political beliefs?
21·21 hours agoBeware the term “liberal”. It has a political meaning that is pro-capitalist and arguably pro-“f— you, I’ve got mine”. It has picked up a secondary meaning of “left-leaning” / “progressive” that was almost certainly started by those further to the right, to whom anyone on their left is nigh-indistinguishable from a communist. (The distinction has bitten me on the behind more than once.)
My family is and has been a mix of political philosophies, so for the sake of harmony, we rarely discuss it.
I class myself as “leftish” because I have empathy for those who are worse off than myself, find that impossible to ignore, and so think that the state should support rather than punish or allow to come to harm, and I think that those who are capable of doing better should be made to provide that support. (i.e. tax the rich).
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World News@lemmy.world•Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as US oil firm prepares to drill. The company shipped equipment without approval
2·22 hours agoThe difference between Gaza and Greenland is that Greenland is a European dependency (or colony if you prefer). This shouldn’t make a difference, of course, but it does.
I’ll grant you that if this drilling is to be on indigenous-owned land, there’s a possibility that there might be an unpleasant echo of Palestine.
It’s all going to come down to how far Denmark are willing to put up with Trump.
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World News@lemmy.world•Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as US oil firm prepares to drill. The company shipped equipment without approval
5·1 day agoThat’s why I made the recommendation in the paragraph after that. If they start murdering Greenlanders after the drill, and only the drill, is blown up, that’s likely to get Europe to call foul.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•What YouTubers have you watched for a long time and still find worth returning to?
351·1 day agoIn alphabetical order for no good reason:
BeardMeatsFood - Competitive eater turned touring food challenge attempter. Wins more than he loses.
Dr Becky - Astrophysicist. Monthly space news updates.
Lock Picking Lawyer - Masterlock’s greatest foe. And a foe to many other terrible locks and safes too. Look out for the April Fools videos.
Numberphile - Brady Haran’s popular channel about mathematics
[Periodic Videos (https://www.youtube.com/@periodicvideos) - Chemistry videos by the same producer as Numberphile. He has a bunch of channels, but I’ll only list the two here.
Primitive Technology - No voice-over or talking head(s), chill vibes, primitive building techniques. The original. Be sure to turn on subtitles / closed captions!
Simone Giertz - Down-to-Earth Inventor and Entrepreneur. Formerly the Queen of Sh*tty Robots.
Simon Roper - Linguist with an interest in English
Weird Explorer - Reviews weird and wonderful fruits from all around the globe, many you’ve probably never heard of. Currently branching out into some home gardening videos, but still doing fruit.
Most of these have extensive back-catalogues that would take some considerable time to get through. Enyoy.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Scientist says RAM pricing has risen to normalized 2007 levels, AI shortage undid 20 years of progress in a matter of months — memory prices had been falling exponentially for decades
12·1 day agoLook on the bright side. If we hook up a dynamo to his coffin we might be able to power an AI data centre.
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World News@lemmy.world•Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as US oil firm prepares to drill. The company shipped equipment without approval
7·2 days agoWell, that’s a very (current, if not always) US way of going about it. I was opting for a more humane alternative.
At least at first. I’d wait for the US to fire the first light weaponry, and then, if you’ll forgive the mixed metaphor, the gloves would come off.
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World News@lemmy.world•Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as US oil firm prepares to drill. The company shipped equipment without approval
331·2 days agoSounds like the way to head this off is to clearly announce that any unsanctioned drilling will be taken as an act of war. Say that the moment any US drill cuts Greenlandic soil, the shooting will start.
And I’d recommend that the first shot be heavy artillery at the drill after a very loud and distinct warning, in English, to stand clear.
Banach-Tarski was originally just one Polish kid, but a couple of months before his 9th birthday he somehow he managed to undergo mitosis, and the rest is history.
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Technology@lemmy.world•Someone Cut Down Every Single Flock Camera in This Town in a Single Night
9·3 days agoUnless by Hercules you mean Kevin Sorbo in which case, yeah, it was him alright.
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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world•just got an unexpected 1k refund... what should I do with it?
1·3 days agoFees by those specific names may have vanished in certain industries and jurisdictions, sure.



“Your plan was not ‘Rid the land of all the troublesome brown people’ and so we must reject it. Feel free to try again.”