• Dinnermaster@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I don’t blame him one but. Football is incredibly emotional and these fans are just complete jackasses. Gotta contain yourself, but he’s human too, it’s normal to get pissed off

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    10 months ago

    There’s no way for a player to “win” that situation. Best off just staying away and asking for team security to handle it if it’s truly out of bounds. I have no doubt that what was said would have warranted a beating if said to his face on the street (not advocating for that, just pointing out the protection fans have by being in a stadium vs saying it to a dude on the street).

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      10 months ago

      100%. I’m pretty sure, regardless of the stadium, if a player says “Hey that guy right there said XYZ, please have him removed.” That would be the end of it. It’s not like players are used to insults being hurled at them so we have to know it was something terrible.

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        10 months ago

        Yeah. I hate the whole “well they’re athletes and emotions are high”.

        Bitch there was coke on the sales floor where I worked, kegs, and aggressive growth goals. I ain’t shoving anyone.

    • ktbsquared@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Why? What a baffling comment. You think it’s okay for players to be violent with fans for talking shit? By doing nothing the league would basically be saying it’s open season on fans. I hope he is punished. Most of us in this thread would be out on our ass jobless if we pulled this at work. He’s a person just like us and should face the same consequences just like us.

    • Infinite_Mind7894@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      No.

      Example needs to be made. Professional athletes should NEVER go near opposing fans during a game. That’s just common sense. Beyond that, pros shouldn’t engage any random normal person. There’s no challenge there, especially when they’re padded up. Don’t make this normal behavior. There’s enough of that shit in the world already.

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    10 months ago

    Is there precedence for this? The shove really wasn’t that much but I’m curious if there’s an nfl policy about it

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      10 months ago

      Everyone is acting like he shoved him 10 feet. It was a brotherly love tap. I don’t think anyone should be punished. The fan is probably bragging about how he got Lawson to push him.

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    10 months ago

    Luckilly for the Bills, it was a horse collar push, so absolutely no consequences are warranted.

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    10 months ago

    This is one of those things that should be zero tolerance. Fine every time and probably a suspension. There can’t be any leniency on approaching and pushing a fan. Same way fans can be banned for throwing things at or dumping beers on players.

    • ktbsquared@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Agreed. Putting hands on someone for talking trash is going to get you fired at most places of employment. You just can’t go around doing that no matter how obnoxious the other person is.

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        10 months ago

        Hard agree. Idk if the “fan” is calling you the most racist, hateful, inappropriate things. Security needed to be alerted and the fan kicked out. And it’s honestly the better response from the player like “I don’t even care about you at all, but you’re getting kicked out for life.”

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      10 months ago

      I’m generally in agreement, but I think since it was an eagles fan we can all agree to let this one slide.

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        10 months ago

        I’d argue there’s a clear difference between going out of your way to approach a fan in the stands to shove him and pushing over a boom operator who you saw one second prior and pushed as he was in your way. Obviously Adams shouldn’t have pushed over the boom guy, but it seems like much more a spur of the moment frustration done to someone working for the NFL, as opposed to going out of your way to shove a paying fan who is in the stands.

    • PopcornDrift@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Nah disagree, fans think they can say whatever they want to players with zero impunity. If you wanna say some foul shit be prepared for the consequences

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        10 months ago

        Yes, going out of your way to incite violence is the answer to the big bad mean words

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      10 months ago

      also, its kind of hard to tell, but if you look at the scoreboard strip thingy near the top of the video shot, I’m pretty sure it says this took place during the 1st quarter… wtf!

      I assumed from the title that this was gonna be him getting into it with a fan next to the tunnel getting in his face while walking off the field after a heartbreaking loss, which would be a bit more understandable

      but WTF is he thinking approaching and hitting this dude in the first 10 minutes of the game?? and possibly risking getting himself in trouble or even kicked out. like dude… you can just go stand like 50 yards away from him and you wont be able to hear him anymore…

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      10 months ago

      It does not look like Shaq was trying to knock the fan down.

      Probably don’t touch the fans and all. But that was a very light shove.

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      10 months ago

      It’s like that small kid who talks shit knowing you can’t win either way. Either you beat the shit out of him and you’re mocked for being a bully, or somehow he punks you and you’re made fun of for not being able to handle him. No win situation, just gotta ignore it

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      10 months ago

      You can’t win against Eagles fans. They’ll just keep shouting GO BIRDS until you get pissed and walk away and then you’ve lost an argument to the real life version of the Gang.

      BOOOOOOOOSSAAAAAAAA BOOOOOOOOSSSSAAAA

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    10 months ago

    “Appears” to shove.

    Just saying it wasn’t clear that he made contact with the fan. If there is another angle that the league can see that shows it he needs to be sat down a bit. That’s a no doubter.

    But all I see is the fan jump back a little. Could be contact. Could just be a flinch from Phillips and the fan stepping back. Can’t say for sure.

    As a lawsuit goes (if there was contact)…meh. Stupid. Player should never make contact. Let league handle. Fan was clearly instigating. As a lawsuit goes, just meh.

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      10 months ago

      And the lawsuit filing is going to video review. We may need Gene on this one

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      10 months ago

      Appears” to shove.

      Just saying it wasn’t clear that he made contact with the fan. If there is another angle that the league can see that shows it he needs to be sat down a bit. That’s a no doubter.

      But all I see is the fan jump back a little. Could be contact. Could just be a flinch from Phillips and the fan stepping back. Can’t say for sure.

      That’s a very conservative take, I assume the fan gets the same benefit.

      Fan was clearly instigating.

      Wait, WTF? How the fuck do you have these two completely incongruent viewpoints?

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        10 months ago

        incongruent

        Good word, I feel like I’m in geometry class and as an adult never hear it anymore

      • Beahner@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Who walked up to whom? That leads me to a jawing Eagle fan instigating. Familiarity with such Eagles fans supports this too.

        I still don’t see player making physical contact for fact. Not in this view.

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          10 months ago

          Who walked up to whom? That leads me to a jawing Eagle fan instigating.

          There is no way you can honestly believe that heckling at a sports game is considered instigating an altercation. We’d have to shut down every sports game ever.

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      10 months ago

      There is no lawsuit here, but the league will probably take action. They are going to want to hold players to a higher standard than this.

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        10 months ago

        I’m not saying there will be. And I’m not saying there ever fucking should be.

        I was replying off other comments that there likely will be if he actually touched the fan.

        Meritless, of course.

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      10 months ago

      Eh. If the fan initiates the contact with the player thats an automatic lifetime ban from the stadium (rightfully so). Has to be some type of punishment for the reverse.

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      10 months ago

      Kind of like you appeared to commit dozens of penalties but the refs swallowed their flags? Maybe take the win instead of complaining the refs couldn’t do more to screw over your opponents?

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      10 months ago

      Right, it clearly wasnt meant to cause injury and no one was hurt. Slap on the wrist. Emotions got the better of them in a tight game. Not cool but not a big deal.

      • Beahner@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Exactly. I don’t know if many Eagles fans will say it, but I will. That guy might have been being an absolute asshole.

        Best overall would be to ignore, but I have no issue going and jawing. If that was indeed contact that’s the line as far as the league goes.

        It will be absolutely litigious. It just shouldn’t be.

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      10 months ago

      Your division rival Vikings fans will have plenty of nice stories about their visit in the 2017 NFCCG.