You should look up conservative “humor” some time, 98% of it is going after trans people, minorities, drug addicts, poor people, anyone they see as less then. You might find it really funny.
Going after marginalized people isn’t the own you think it is.
But they’re not going after any of that, they’re going after the whole American society that creates that.
Try looking through a non internal American politics view, I know it’s really hard for an American to put themselves in someone else’s shoes, but truly it’s a criticism of your entire system.
That would have a chance of being true only if fentanyl was a specifically American problem. Drug abuse is a problem in most free countries, and with some countries that are not free.
Mocking drug addicts isn’t going after all of American society. Do you think Charlie Kirk was going after all of American society when he did the same thing?
Its like trying to mock Europeans by doing racism against Roma people. Its not criticizing all of European society, you’re literally doing the same shit our conservatives do.
When you mock the victims of a school shooting, you’re not criticizing all of American society or system that creates school shooters, you’re just being a reactionary piece of shit, and we have enough of those.
That’s exactly the difference, because that would be focusing on the system victimizing the children, rather than mocking the children themselves for getting shot.
Hell you could genuinely do the children getting shot as a satire of conservatives’ lack of response to school shootings, but that would be mocking conservatives, not the victims.
Its not that any group is off limits, its the actual message can’t just be “haha <oppressed minority> bad”
Children scared for their lives living in fear is funny to you? You sicko don’t make fun of the victims!
You’re just choosing arbitrarily what to take offense at. America’s self inflicted opiate problem is just as ridiculous as it’s self inflicted school shooting problem. Bringing it back to American political parties is missing the entire point. It’s America, not the Republicans threatening world order. It’s America’s obsession with capitalism that prevents them from fixing their problems.
They’re mocking the society that is so sick and disgusting that it allows for people to become addicted to and ruined by drugs, en masse.
They’re doing it in a way that offends your moral sensibilities, because you are seeing individual victimized people who belong to a different group than yourself.
They’re seeing a society that is fundamentally broken and disgusting, getting worse, not doing anything to collectively better itself, of which you are just as much a member of that group as the fent head is.
Yeah, we do actually need a bit of ‘fuck your feelings’.
We need to actually fix things, not just complain and be offended on behalf of others whom we are not actually helping with our moral indignation alone.
We need to do better.
The world has run out of patience for all forms of our self-righteous bullshit.
We already has another recent post get pretty big explaining that… nobody who isn’t American cares about American’s apologies, their perfect moral stances that… result in absofuckinglutely no change whatsoever, other than Americans having scripts by which they justify their self-centered ness and be insufferable on the internet.
Everyone is at their wits end with all of us, the way that we have been at our wits end with our own political/ideological opponents for a decade now.
Don’t expect sympathy or pity.
We’ve burned through all the goodwill, none remains.
You can say that isn’t fair, to which the rest of the world would likely laugh, uproariously.
I don’t suggest it as a general demeanor, moving forward.
it allows for people to become addicted to and ruined by drugs, en masse.
Stop exaggerating. The US fentanyl addict population is tiny compared to its overall population. I live in one of America’s largest cities and have never seen a recognizable fentanyl addict. I doubt that most Americans have ever seen a fentanyl addict.
That’s not what Trump claims when he kidnaps world leaders, deports citizens, and creates a private army to intimidate the whole country. He calls it terrorism it’s so bad. Trump is America, what he says and does is all that matters right now for Greenland and the rest of the world. America created all these problems, that’s what we all see. It’s another American problem he wants to spread. There were no Americans or drug victims in the clip, just people demonstrating how fucked up America is for people who aren’t rich.
So thats roughly 3% of the population with opioid addiction and roughly 70% of od deaths involving fentanyl, within the last couple of years.
Yeah, exact numbers are hard to come by, but if you think a million+ people doesn’t count as ‘en masse’, well then I guess I’ll try some of whatever you’re smoking.
The latest official count of prescription fent abusers I can find is about half a million, from 2021… but that doesn’t count people who get it without a prescription, which is quite a lot.
And its also kind of fundamentally impossible to count homeless fent users.
I would know, I have both been homeless and used to manage the data analytics of a large network of homeless shelters and assistance providers.
So thats roughly 3% of the population with opioid addiction
You deliberately conflated fentanyl stats with those of more common opioids to make it appear that fentanyl is more commonly used in the US than it is.
Offending Americans in a novel way. Absolutely Epic win.
You should look up conservative “humor” some time, 98% of it is going after trans people, minorities, drug addicts, poor people, anyone they see as less then. You might find it really funny.
Going after marginalized people isn’t the own you think it is.
But they’re not going after any of that, they’re going after the whole American society that creates that.
Try looking through a non internal American politics view, I know it’s really hard for an American to put themselves in someone else’s shoes, but truly it’s a criticism of your entire system.
That would have a chance of being true only if fentanyl was a specifically American problem. Drug abuse is a problem in most free countries, and with some countries that are not free.
Mocking drug addicts isn’t going after all of American society. Do you think Charlie Kirk was going after all of American society when he did the same thing?
Its like trying to mock Europeans by doing racism against Roma people. Its not criticizing all of European society, you’re literally doing the same shit our conservatives do.
When you mock the victims of a school shooting, you’re not criticizing all of American society or system that creates school shooters, you’re just being a reactionary piece of shit, and we have enough of those.
But pretending to be a kid hiding from school shooters would also be hilarious. And it sure does criticise a LOT of American society.
That’s exactly the difference, because that would be focusing on the system victimizing the children, rather than mocking the children themselves for getting shot.
Hell you could genuinely do the children getting shot as a satire of conservatives’ lack of response to school shootings, but that would be mocking conservatives, not the victims.
Its not that any group is off limits, its the actual message can’t just be “haha <oppressed minority> bad”
Children scared for their lives living in fear is funny to you? You sicko don’t make fun of the victims!
You’re just choosing arbitrarily what to take offense at. America’s self inflicted opiate problem is just as ridiculous as it’s self inflicted school shooting problem. Bringing it back to American political parties is missing the entire point. It’s America, not the Republicans threatening world order. It’s America’s obsession with capitalism that prevents them from fixing their problems.
No, the consistency is that its never ok to punch down.
Mocking victims!= mocking the system victimizing them, the opposite actually.
Punching down at school shooting victims, or punching down at Americans?
America is a bully, Americans are fair game.
They’re mocking the society that is so sick and disgusting that it allows for people to become addicted to and ruined by drugs, en masse.
They’re doing it in a way that offends your moral sensibilities, because you are seeing individual victimized people who belong to a different group than yourself.
They’re seeing a society that is fundamentally broken and disgusting, getting worse, not doing anything to collectively better itself, of which you are just as much a member of that group as the fent head is.
Yeah, we do actually need a bit of ‘fuck your feelings’.
We need to actually fix things, not just complain and be offended on behalf of others whom we are not actually helping with our moral indignation alone.
We need to do better.
The world has run out of patience for all forms of our self-righteous bullshit.
We already has another recent post get pretty big explaining that… nobody who isn’t American cares about American’s apologies, their perfect moral stances that… result in absofuckinglutely no change whatsoever, other than Americans having scripts by which they justify their self-centered ness and be insufferable on the internet.
Everyone is at their wits end with all of us, the way that we have been at our wits end with our own political/ideological opponents for a decade now.
Don’t expect sympathy or pity.
We’ve burned through all the goodwill, none remains.
You can say that isn’t fair, to which the rest of the world would likely laugh, uproariously.
I don’t suggest it as a general demeanor, moving forward.
Stop exaggerating. The US fentanyl addict population is tiny compared to its overall population. I live in one of America’s largest cities and have never seen a recognizable fentanyl addict. I doubt that most Americans have ever seen a fentanyl addict.
That’s not what Trump claims when he kidnaps world leaders, deports citizens, and creates a private army to intimidate the whole country. He calls it terrorism it’s so bad. Trump is America, what he says and does is all that matters right now for Greenland and the rest of the world. America created all these problems, that’s what we all see. It’s another American problem he wants to spread. There were no Americans or drug victims in the clip, just people demonstrating how fucked up America is for people who aren’t rich.
https://www.addictiongroup.org/resources/fentanyl-statistics/
https://drugabusestatistics.org/
So thats roughly 3% of the population with opioid addiction and roughly 70% of od deaths involving fentanyl, within the last couple of years.
Yeah, exact numbers are hard to come by, but if you think a million+ people doesn’t count as ‘en masse’, well then I guess I’ll try some of whatever you’re smoking.
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/opioids/fentanyl/addiction-statistics
The latest official count of prescription fent abusers I can find is about half a million, from 2021… but that doesn’t count people who get it without a prescription, which is quite a lot.
And its also kind of fundamentally impossible to count homeless fent users.
I would know, I have both been homeless and used to manage the data analytics of a large network of homeless shelters and assistance providers.
You deliberately conflated fentanyl stats with those of more common opioids to make it appear that fentanyl is more commonly used in the US than it is.
You’re jumping through a lot of hoops to justify making fun of drug addicts. Are we gonna bring back “tactical slur” discourse next?
… justify?
I am explaining.
Not justifying.
These are different things.