Most people criticized Joao for his comments about Atletico but he was right. It’s way easier to perform in a possesion side than in a defensive side

When you only touch the ball 5-10 times per game it’s harder to perform that if you touch it 45-50 times per game. Joao wasn’t lying when he said most players would prefer to touch the ball 50 times than 10 times.

Just compare today’s game between Barca and Atletico. Just compare how much touches did Joao had in comparison to Griezzman and you would see how Joao actually had a point.

  • nananananaBETMAN@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    nah he was not. yesterdays game is just a snapshot in time. check the table since felix left atletico. tell me who scores the most goals and who has the most points this season running and then say again that he was right because of one game where barca played their best game so far this season and atletico one of their worst.

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    1 year ago

    Don’t Atletico Madrid have the most goals in the Champions League. They have been one of the highest scorers in Europe all 2023 so far. Today they didn’t play well for sure but Felix was poor too often

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      1 year ago

      It’s not that they didn’t play well or anything, Xavi was just too good for Simione.

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    He wasn’t right. Lots of attackers have thrived under Simeone. Felix isn’t willing to work hard enough in the system like a Griezmann

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      He wasn’t right. Lots of attackers have thrived under Simeone.

      Lots MORE attackers have thrived at barcelona. ergo, he IS right by your own logic

      Felix isn’t willing to work hard enough in the system like a Griezmann

      yes, this is correct… but that doesn’t make him wrong. his comments are easier to thrive at barca in the possession style, not impossible to thrive at athleti. what he said is factually true for him and his style 100%.

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        1 year ago

        I disagree, so many Barca attackers have failed or not lived up to their potential. At athletico id say not as many

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        Lots MORE attackers have thrived at barcelona. ergo, he IS right by your own logic

        Lol, no, not even remotely close. He is very wrong, and so are you.

        Since Simeone came to Atleti, only Messi, Neymar and Suarez have really thrived. Maybe Villa and Lewa first season.

        Griezman, Dembele, Zlatan, Auba, Alexis Sanchez, Depay, Alcacer, Munir, Brainwaite, Boateng… Neither of those was really a success.

        Now, on Atlético, pretty much every striker they signed became a star and was sold for massive profit: Falcao, Griezmann, Costa, Forlán, Agüero. And to a point, Mandzukic and Villa.

        Felix is the first real flop.

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    2 league goals in 12 games at Barca and 4 in 16 at Chelsea. This is a player that cost 100+ million not long ago. The biggest issue is that he is nowhere near that level regardless of who the manager is.

    The Griezmann comparison over one game is also terrible. Griezmann has absolutely thrived under Simeone at Atletico, and that’s what a top player actually looks like.

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    Whether or not he’s right doesn’t matter. It’s a stupid thing to say. If I tell my fictional wife it’s easier for me to get an erection to Margot Robbie than her, then that very well may be true, but what on Earth would I gain from saying it?

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    1 year ago

    “When you only touch the ball 5-10 times per game it’s harder to perform”

    Berbatov : Im sorry, what?

  • FuckRSIashSoccerMods@alien.topB
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    Atletico play more like Barca than Barca do this season. If they had lost or drawn it would have been the other way around.

    Ever since Xavi became manager Barca have become Burnleylona. They’re an eyesore to watch.

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    1 year ago

    It come down to tactic of the manager. Rafa was pretty defensive coach for us but he still gave free role to likes of Gerrard and Torres to do their while the rest did the donkey work for them to shine.

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    1 year ago

    Jao still sucks with Barca, sucked with Chelsea and ducks with Portugal, looks like he just sucks overall