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    I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone from the right say they support fascism. However, I’ve heard plenty on the left say they support communism. Also, the right has plenty of problems to draw upon without acting like the crazy fringe is the norm. This twitter post is insane and really not a convincing argument.

    Go ahead and downvote because you don’t like hearing it all you want, but you know it’s true.

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      I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone from the right say they support fascism

      I have.

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          The people I’ve met in real life? That would be a little tricky. But I’ve met actual open fascists.

          And there’s also people who support fascist policy, but don’t say fascism; they are still supporters of fascism.

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      Nah its patently false. Christian nationalism is business as usual on the right now and thats just American fascism.

      America first? Fascism. MAGA is the same, look at Trumps veterans day speech

      The tiki torch “Jews will not replace us” crowd was very fine people on both sides according to him.

      Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., declared in an interview that “We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists.”

      There’s Rep. Lauren Boebert, who floated the idea of mandatory “biblical citizenship training,” who has said “the church is supposed to direct the government” and that she’s “tired of this separation of church and state junk.”

      They legislate against civil liberties then call anyone who opposes their attacks ‘groomers’

      Return to tradition. Reject modernism. Elevate irrationalism (denial of science). Disagreement is treason (or ‘grooming’, the new way of saying indoctrination, but a blanket condemnation of indoctrination is self incriminating for Christian nationalists). Demagougery, exploit fear of difference, tear down diversity. Attacks on immigrants to elevate ‘patriots’ (read white nationalists). Veneration of authoritarian leaders. Hyperfixation on chauvinism (Proudboys) conquest and war iconography. Selective populism, double speak where moms for liberty means book burning and parental rights means don’t challenge my bigotry by teaching acceptance. Goes on and on.

      They wont outright say fascism is good right away. It dogwhistles and doublespeak until they hold enough power.

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      I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone from the right say they support fascism. However, I’ve heard plenty on the left say they support communism

      Cool whataboutism, but the two aren’t remotely comparable. Fascism is an ideology of violence. Communism, as described by Marx, is an ideology of common ownership, lack of social classes, and the obsoletion of currency.

      Both sides are not the same.

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      Communism ≠ Fascism. I’m terribly sorry that every single “Communist State” literally couldn’t be a communist state any more than The Congo and North Korea are Democratic Republics. Just because someone calls themselves something doesn’t make them a member of that ideology.

      Communism at it’s core requires a dissolution of both The State (The federal government,) and an abolition of currency. The closest you’ll find to any society like this would be the aboriginal societies in Siberia, Australia, North and South America, and Africa.

      Fun fact: The Native Siberian reigndeer hunting tribes were so communistic that Russia/The USSR under both The Czar, and Lenin and Stalin didn’t have any clue how to deal with them, so much like Mao, they disrupted their way of life and caused some pretty massive famines.

      No so called “Communist” country has been anything more than a right wing authoritarian dictatorship which is about as far from communism as you could possibly get.

      Before you propagandized capitalists come at me,: “Democracy doesn’t work because The People’s Democratic Republic of The Congo, and The Democratic Republic of North Korea are nothing but authoritarian fascist dictatorships, so all attempts at democracy, much like The US under Wilson, Trump, Harding and Coolidge, will automatically fall into authoritarian fascist regimes.”