• jeffhykin@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, sorry if I’m not great at communicating. That’s exactly what I’m trying to point out when I said:

    Even if we don’t federate with them, Meta can still harvest the data so we should add these protections regardless.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not fair game for for-profit bussinesses training LLM’s. That’s part of why Reddit made the move; so that companies would need to pay Reddit for access to the data for legally training models

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          They changed the terms and made the API pay to use for large volumes of use. People using it to train models have already pillaged what they need and you can get the data prior to APIgeddon elsewhere.

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            Sure, but it’s still true that there are legal protections we can add that make it not fair game for Lemmy. At best it would be unfair-game (illegal scraping of Lemmy)

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              1 year ago

              A rule for one Lemmy or even the Lemmy app doesn’t mean same rule applies across ActivityPub Federation, if your data federated to my instance, it’s mine too.

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                it can apply across all of them, for example that’s how copy-left works

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                    What? I’m saying every federated copy must legally must have the usage restrictions. Just cause it’s copied doesn’t mean it can go into a for-profit LLM.