I am looking to change my instance since many defederation and censorship decisions on lemmy.world.

Anyone knows of any instance that has a rule against defederation and is more free speech oriented. Of course I am looking for an instance that forbids illegal content like CP. But I want an instance that does not censor hate speech!

The instance should be hopefully federated with mostly everyone, unless defederated because of CP. I was considering lemm.ee, but I saw a comment from an admin saying that they could consider defederation if certain propaganda reaches front page.

Before anyone accuses me of anything, I just want to be exposed to different viewpoints, and I am not offended so easily, so I can tolerate offensive content. What is important is that the rules on defederation dont change in the future.

  • darq@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    You aren’t going to find an instance that both tolerates hate-speech, and is federated with mostly everyone. That’s not how that works. Sorry, you cannot have your cake, and eat it too.

    Federation is a two-way agreement. Instances that do not allow hate-speech will also not probably federate with instances that do allow hate-speech, because of all the hate-speech.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    You’ve got a terminology problem.

    Free speech has become a coded term.

    It shouldn’t have, but it did. Now, when people say they want “free speech” they don’t usually mean that they want all speech protected. They mean that they want specific kinds of speech protected.

    Those kinds fall afoul of the “tolerance paradox” because the people crowing the term around are specifically the neo nazis, gay bashers, extremists and kkk friendly sorts.

    So, if you find a “free speech” instance, that is exactly who will dominate the instance. That’s just a fact now. Every instance that has laid claim to free speech gets taken over by those people.

    As such, defederation is the only realistic option because those same people refuse to follow the rules on other instances. It has happened recently with hexbear. It had previously happened with exploding heads. And, frankly, it was always the case with lemmygrad, though they were usually not as bad about ignoring rules elsewhere.

    The other type of thing you get on “free speech” places is kiddie porn. Sometimes just the drawn kind, but sometimes the real stuff.

    Being real with you? You will not find an instance that allows hate speech that isn’t dominated by it. Period. It doesn’t exist. If you specifically enjoy that kind of thing, that’s on you. But that isn’t the same thing as people having a different opinion. That’s people wanting other human beings to be anything from oppressed to eradicated. If that’s something you think is just a matter of opinion, you might as well head on over to exploding heads because you aren’t going to last long anywhere else. You’ll get banned from most places by virtue of trying to defend hate speech.

  • Grouchy@lemmy.grouchysysadmin.com
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    1 year ago

    Run your own instance. It’s the only way you’ll be able to set your own policies. Otherwise you’re subject to policies of the instance you’re on and those policies may change at any time.

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      1 year ago

      If your going to run a free speech instance, I advise running the server in the US and using a server provider that is free speech friendly. It will also not hurt to use a domain registrar that is pro free speech. By running the server in the US, you got first amendment protection

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    1 year ago

    If you think hate speech is acceptable, you may want to stop and reassess your life. You dun fucked up.

    Try building a life that doesn’t revolve around worrying about other people do that doesn’t affect you, it’s far healthier.

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        1 year ago

        I didn’t misunderstand your question, I ignored answering your question and instead gave advice to a person who would ask such a question.

        You will die an unhappy person if you make hating other people a priority in your life.

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            8 months ago

            A) This thread is 8 months old, what the hell are you doing going through stuff this old. Get a life.

            B) If you do it intentionally, knowing that they don’t want it, you’re a bad person. It’s not hate speech though based on the legal description in Canada. Just like I can call you a thin-skinned small-dicked asshole and it’s not hate speech.

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              8 months ago

              It’s not hate speech though based on the legal description in Canada.

              I never mentioned canada or any laws. Do you think it should be considered hate speech?

              • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
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                8 months ago

                I’m a Canadian, so the only hate speech laws that I care about are the ones for my country.

                No I do not think intentional misgendering should be considered hate speech (in the legal sense)

                I would absolutely fire an employee of mine for doing it though, even if I found out they did it outside of a work context.

                Just because something isn’t illegal doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be consequences for it.