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Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

  • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
    43·
    1 year ago

    You don’t think the cost to replace an engine or transmission are an issue?

    Do you realize batteries are typically made up of several replaceable “cells”. Like by the time you need a new one there will be several affordable third party options that will also increase your range.

    • David_Eight@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      1 year ago

      Last I checked an engine and transmission rebuild combined cost less than replacing just the batteries on an EV. An ICE might need a rebuild every 20+ years but, we don’t even have 20 years of EV data to look at to compare.

      No, I don’t follow EVs super close. What brands allow this? What third party batteries can I buy and how much do they cost and how do they compare to OEM batteries?

      • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
        13·
        1 year ago

        Last I checked an engine and transmission rebuild combined cost less than replacing just the batteries on an EV.

        Depends on which ones you buy and when.

        An ICE might need a rebuild every 20+ years but, we don’t even have 20 years of EV data to look at to compare.

        It’s very easy to look at 10+ year old batteries and extrapolate.

        What third party batteries can I buy and how much do they cost and how do they compare to OEM batteries?

        That’s what we call a “loaded question”. There’s all kinds of companies.

        • David_Eight@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Depends on which ones you buy and when.

          How much does it cost to replace an EV battery on average?

          It’s very easy to look at 10+ year old batteries and extrapolate.

          There aren’t a ton of 10+ year old EVs is my problem. 10 years ago EV were still a pretty niche thing. If you have that kind of info I’d love to take a look though.

          That’s what we call a “loaded question”. There’s all kinds of companies.

          I definitely wouldn’t call that a loaded question. How do you figure that it is?

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      1 year ago

      It should be better but Tesla has been making it worse.

      The Model Y has a structural battery pack. That is the battery is integral to the car, and filled with an almost impossible to remove foam. It is unrepairable and un replaceable. Musk has said when the battery dies, you scrap the entire car and they recycle the lithium from the scrap.

      • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
        82·
        1 year ago

        You’re conflating Tesla with “EVs”. Simply don’t buy a Tesla if that’s what you want.

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
          33·
          1 year ago

          Given Tesla’s market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is “typical” isn’t accurate. A large percentage isn’t replaceable so it’s something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

          • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
            52·
            1 year ago

            Given Tesla’s market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is “typical” isn’t accurate.

            Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

            it’s something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

            Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”, we were discussing EVs.

            • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
              32·
              1 year ago

              Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

              Tesla is 50% of all EV’s sold. So, yes.

              Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”,

              That’s the point! You presented “swap a new battery” as obvious to the the OP when it’s not obvious. You have to first pick a brand that allows that. Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

              • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
                32·
                1 year ago

                Tesla is 50% of all EV’s sold. So, yes.

                Right so then “EVs”= “Tesla”? That’s the argument you want to go with?

                You presented “swap a new battery” as obvious to the the OP

                I didn’t present anything as obvious. Just a matter of fact.

                You have to first pick a brand that allows that.

                …which is easy enough?

                Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

                [Citation needed]