Almost a month and a half time hivit symptoms post infection…
The issue is they’re putting everyone on planes, then quarantining them. But only for two weeks…
It’s been worse than usual lately, but I’m really struggling how people can’t see this is clearly not being handled correctly. Like, clearly if one person is infectious, they infect everyone on the flight, and then they may not even show symptoms until a month later…
Is just wild bro, and what’s fucked is that’s the prevailing attitude, as a species we just don’t understand anything but immediate consequences anymore
One of my friends is an epidemiologist. She does infectious disease stuff. She’s not too concerned about it, and I trust her expertise over media sensationalism.
and I trust her expertise over media sensationalism.
What media sensitationalism?
There is none, that’s what my comment was about
Even just look at that link about how kitted out the WHO workers were during the evacuation.
The issue is individual countries not treating it seriously, obviously that would include some epidemiologists.
Like, not saying she’s not competent, but don’t forget what happened to the first surgeon that started washing his hands. It doesn’t matter if she has a degree and decades of experience if she doesn’t have a questioning attitude and just goes with the flow.
Because, again, the problem is that attitude being pervasive in the first place…
There are just so many different ways you’re missing the point here buddy…
Edit:
I mean, even if she’s “competent” in her day to day work…
If she isn’t concerned about andes variant as an epidemiologist, she isn’t paying attention and hasn’t been for years at least…
In 2024, the NIH identified several families of viruses — including hantaviruses — that were extremely dangerous and had no effective vaccines or treatments, making them of special concern for their potential to cause a pandemic. To better prepare for future pandemics, the NIH awarded a series of grants through the ReVAMPP program to study these viruses and develop new tools to combat them, including the grant that established the Provident consortium and enabled this latest study. McLellan and other Provident researchers have simultaneously been working to find ways to address other viruses that health officials have identified as especially dangerous in an outbreak, such as measles and Nipah virus.
And that article was written before the cruise ship outbreak, it literally can’t be “media sensationalism” about the cruise out real, that’s not how linear time works.
Evacuations are just starting today, and most (I think all) countries are just doing two week quarantine.
Symptoms show up at latest at 6 weeks, but can be as soon as four days. And right before symptoms you become infectious.
The real danger is these people get infected during evac, don’t display infections till after quarantine, and then upon release become infectious and spread it. Especially since they’ll think they’re safe and are likely to immediately go out in public.
Even with expontial spread, 6 weeks from now we’ll still be “fine” in the present tense, but that doesn’t mean we’re not already fucked.
That’s why controlling the begining is so important and everyone on that ship needs a two month quarantine to be sure.
A bunch of them already got on a plane. We would already be seeing it if it was that bad.
https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/about/andesvirus.html
Almost a month and a half time hivit symptoms post infection…
The issue is they’re putting everyone on planes, then quarantining them. But only for two weeks…
It’s been worse than usual lately, but I’m really struggling how people can’t see this is clearly not being handled correctly. Like, clearly if one person is infectious, they infect everyone on the flight, and then they may not even show symptoms until a month later…
https://apnews.com/article/hantavirus-cruise-ship-hondius-tenerife-1c43c66d2b0555cf946d9e57fc65f1d4
The Spanish flight was today (yesterday?) saying:
Is just wild bro, and what’s fucked is that’s the prevailing attitude, as a species we just don’t understand anything but immediate consequences anymore
One of my friends is an epidemiologist. She does infectious disease stuff. She’s not too concerned about it, and I trust her expertise over media sensationalism.
What media sensitationalism?
There is none, that’s what my comment was about
Even just look at that link about how kitted out the WHO workers were during the evacuation.
The issue is individual countries not treating it seriously, obviously that would include some epidemiologists.
Like, not saying she’s not competent, but don’t forget what happened to the first surgeon that started washing his hands. It doesn’t matter if she has a degree and decades of experience if she doesn’t have a questioning attitude and just goes with the flow.
Because, again, the problem is that attitude being pervasive in the first place…
There are just so many different ways you’re missing the point here buddy…
Edit:
I mean, even if she’s “competent” in her day to day work…
If she isn’t concerned about andes variant as an epidemiologist, she isn’t paying attention and hasn’t been for years at least…
https://news.utexas.edu/2026/03/11/scientists-map-deadly-hantavirus-bringing-treatments-one-step-closer/
And that article was written before the cruise ship outbreak, it literally can’t be “media sensationalism” about the cruise out real, that’s not how linear time works.
let’s see how things look in 6 weeks.
Longer than that.
Evacuations are just starting today, and most (I think all) countries are just doing two week quarantine.
Symptoms show up at latest at 6 weeks, but can be as soon as four days. And right before symptoms you become infectious.
The real danger is these people get infected during evac, don’t display infections till after quarantine, and then upon release become infectious and spread it. Especially since they’ll think they’re safe and are likely to immediately go out in public.
Even with expontial spread, 6 weeks from now we’ll still be “fine” in the present tense, but that doesn’t mean we’re not already fucked.
That’s why controlling the begining is so important and everyone on that ship needs a two month quarantine to be sure.