• tristynalxander@mander.xyz
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    14 days ago

    While the government can technically print money, it then has to tax people more to prevent inflation, so this “money doesn’t matter” “let’s build a utopia out of hopes and dreams” stuff is nonsense. I cannot take seriously claims that a party cares about people or causes if that party cannot be bothered to consider the actual logistics of solving problems. That’s just tribalism.

    The government should absolutely drive economic activity by spending money to solve problems, and it does have a small advantage since very low inflation is desirable, but for the most part that money must come from carefully spent taxes – not taxes thrown blindly at corporations or pocketed by corrupt politicians.

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      14 days ago

      I think you’ve read a lot into that person’s comment that wasn’t actually in the comment. What they said wasn’t that the government should spend with abandon; they said it shouldn’t be arbitrarily limited. And insisting on zero deficit spending at all times is indeed arbitrary.

      If, for instance, they issue bonds in order to pay for better public education, that has a significant positive effect on the growth of the local economy a few years in the future, which they can reasonably expect to result in increased tax revenue at that time, and indeed a larger increase than what they’re spending in the present. Borrowing money to spend in this way isn’t fiscally irresponsible; quite the opposite. It pays for itself over a slightly longer time horizon and improves the city.

      There are often similar effects with programs to support low-income residents, because support to these residents has a higher “velocity” than aid for higher-income residents. Infrastructure spending is also frequently justifiable.

      Conversely, giving tax cuts to AI datacenters doesn’t become responsible stewardship if you offset the cost by increasing payroll taxes.

      Budgeting for a government is really complicated, and oversimplifying that, whether it’s by saying “we need zero deficit!” or by saying “we have infinite money!” is gonna lead to bad decisions. But “we have infinite money” being false doesn’t make “we need zero deficit” true. Both are oversimplifications, and the right has been using the latter as a propaganda bludgeon for at least 40 years now.