• FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Read the room. The pro-Palestinian are not fringe, and not nerds. And the majority just doesn’t care one way or another. Your positions are not based on reality. You’re the idealist.

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      1 year ago

      The pro-Palestinian are not fringe

      In real life, yes they are.

      and not nerds

      Anyone who stalks your posts to call you a Nazi when they never get a rise out of you is absolutely a fucking nerd and a half lol

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        Facts:

        https://time.com/6050422/pro-palestinian-support/

        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/16/israel-palestine-quinnipiac-poll-00127726

        https://www.vox.com/2014/7/29/5948255/israel-world-opinion

        https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/middleeast/israel-mood-gaza-war-intl-cmd/index.html

        Not fringe. Minority, maybe, I never pretended otherwise.

        The states that voted against Israel at the UN vote are not led by youthful idealists, are they? Or did you confuse the anglosphere with the whole world again, as if the opinions of most of the world didn’t matter?

        For the record, I didn’t call you a nazi. I’m not following you around Lemmy. I have better things to do with my life.

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          The states that voted against Israel at the UN vote are not led by youthful idealists, are they?

          No, they’re a block of authoritarian and Muslim countries, primarily. How shocking.

          The UN, it cannot be stressed enough, has a 1 country 1 vote policy, which directly benefits these theocratic and totalitarian states.

          For the record, I didn’t call you a nazi. I’m not following you around Lemmy. I have better things to do with my life.

          I never said you did. Disagreement is fine. Disagreement is where we test our biases and priors. We don’t have to agree on everything. There’s a difference between disagreement and harassment.

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            You’re moving the goalposts. You said supporting Palestine was idealist and fringe, and I proved it wasn’t. Muslim countries have tangible reasons to oppose Israel, good or bad.

            If you want to talk about pro-Palestine sentiment in the West and more particularly in the Anglosphere, we can, but we need to clearly define what we mean by “pro-Palestinian sentiment”

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              Is it your belief that Lemmy is not predominantly inhabited by Western/Anglosphere people?

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                Not the guy you’re having a pointless argument with but my experience of all is that I see a fuck ton more German/Scandinavian/indian posts than I do Anglosphere.

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                  On lemmy.world? That’s fascinating to me. Would you mind sharing some community names?

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            Calling the 153 countries who voted in favour of a ceasefire, including Finland, Canada, Australia, Japan, Norway, Belgium, Sweden or Switzerland, a “block of authoritarian and Muslim countries primarily” is a bold claim. Here is the list of the 10 countries who voted against – for fun I’ve included their latest score on the Democracy Index, on a scale from 0 to 10 where 10 is the most democratic –: Austria (8,2), Czech Republic (7,9), Guatemala (4,6), Israel (7,9), Liberia (5,4), Micronesia (no data), Nauru (no data), Papua New Guinea (6,5), Paraguay (6,1), United States of America (8,2).

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              The core group against Israel, always, is the Muslim bloc and I was stoned and didn’t click your link.

              I own that. My bad dude.

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        Posted the bigot using the device created and coded by nerds. Do you fail to realize that “nerd” is what idiots call the smart kids? Of course you do.