• notsosure@sh.itjust.works
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    Most of this isn’t new. And globally, more people are turning vegan and more people are becoming vegetarian, because of scientific studies like this. But it isn’t happening fast enough, as people are also getting richer and as they get richer, they also want more meat. Meat consumption needs to be taxed, CO2 intensive products (production/transport/disposal) must be taxed, but even then the turn around will be very slow.

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      Yes, and the subsidies that animal flesh gets needs to stop completely. these subsidies would make animal flesh completely impossible for the regular person to afford. Animal flesh really is a luxury. A lot of poor countries are vegan, or at least vego because animal flesh is expensive.

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        In more rural areas, veganism is rare. Animals can turn indigestible stuff like unworked grassland or the parts of vegetables people can’t eat into eggs, milk, wool, skin, and meat.

        You might have a migratory herder trading away milk or wool to locals and to cheesemakers, who also trades away meat when an animal gets injured and can’t keep up.

        Or you might have a bunch of free-roaming chickens finding stuff to eat no human would bother with that roost in a place their eggs get taken because they don’t get hunted there.

        Or you’ll have someone bringing around a pig that eats the organic household trash that eventually gets slaughtered.

        Or you might have hungry kids trying to trap wild birds because they can’t work the farm equipment and birds are more calories per hour.

        Basically, food insecurity is common in poor countries, and animal exploitation is used to mitigate that. Someone who hasn’t had enough protein in a week isn’t going to say no when a cow’s leg got broken and the herder has hundreds of kilos of beef to get rid of within two hours of each other because nobody can afford a fridge.

        Veganism - the ability to say no to all animal products for ethical reasons - implies either a level of food security that billions of people do not have, or a level of commitment that 99.9% of western vegans have never had to show.