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sanitation@lemmy.radio to me_irl@lemmy.world · 1 day ago

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sanitation@lemmy.radio to me_irl@lemmy.world · 1 day ago
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    This is a bullshit comparison. Data center are not loud when compared to other industries. The issue with sind turbines isn’t even their noise level but the low frequency bit. Loudness must be normalized to a distance. Also a motor cycle is like 110db or so. When tuned to be loud. Giving that value is horse hockey and manipulative.

    Wind turbines might actually affect property values. But that’s a bullshit concern.

    The issue is that window turbines tend to be perceived as harm reduction when compared with other power sources. Wind turbines do in fact cause harm, but much less than fossil alternatives.

    Data centers tend to not be perceived as harm reduction but actual consumption, as you could just not use their services.

    There is some validity to both perspectives, but they both can induce demand and consumption.

    Doesn’t mean you are wrong, just that your arguments are non factual propaganda.

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      The comment history on this one shows a lot of weird data center sympathy and criticisms for Ukraine.

      I thought they were a Russian bot but it’s more like a victim of Russian bots propaganda.

      Wind turbines kill less birds than houses and any building like data centers.

      Data centers are loud in sound and dangerous infrasound.

      This person doesn’t even care about birds just wants a talking point against wind turbines.

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        You are quite dense for I am neither. Not am I talking about wind turbines being the worse choose, but a harmful choice.

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      Wind turbines do in fact cause harm

      Such as…? Property values of coastal golf courses?

      Also, do you mean low frequency noise like this?

      https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/data-centers-face-increasing-infrasound-complaints-from-neighboring-communities-sounds-do-not-register-on-decibel-meters-but-irritate-local-citizens

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/insight/data-center-noise-and-infrasound-complaints-spark-lawsuits-bans/gm-GM4E1265F9

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        Wind turbines do take up space, cause deaths and disproportionately affect large birds of prey which are already very stressed due to habitat loss etc. They require roads and cause mayor disruptions when transported. At least around here.

        They are much better than fossil power, though.

        Also, data centers tend to be built in industrial parks and not in residential areas, but america may just be built different.

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          https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/do-wind-turbines-kill-birds

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            I talked on large birds of prey, not birds. But yes.

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          They don’t kill birds though, that’s propaganda

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            They do. Just not a lot. Birds are flimsy dainty things

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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bP80DEAbuo A bit longer but very interesting video about infrasonic noise from data centers

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