• Riverside@reddthat.com
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    8 hours ago

    Surely the country leading the renewable transition by manufacturing 95% of the world’s photovoltaic modules is the totally lobbied one.

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      8 hours ago

      I think you’ve misunderstood my comment because that’s kinda the point I was trying to make.

      This graph is implying “the west” is corrupt because they have lobbying. China was my counter example because it too allows lobbying but a) was left off the map and b) is likely not a country that OP would call corrupt.

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        Not sure I get your point. I’m arguing that china does not allow for lobbying in the way we understand in the west, because otherwise it would be kneeling to fossil fuel lobby as we do.

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          If we want to test your assertion you would need to define “The way we do in the west” because I’m reasonably certain none of the countries shown in red have the exact same laws around lobbying.

          With regards to “kneeling to fossil fuels,” I’m pretty sure there are more factors at play in that issue than just the laws surrounding lobbying specifically.

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            6 hours ago

            none of the countries shown in red have the exact same laws around lobbying

            Yet they all share one economic system: capitalism, and none of them manufactures 95% of the solar photovoltaic modules on the planet. The point of the post is not the specificity of the definition of lobbying, it’s that corruption is rampant over here in the red area, just not declared so. An example would be policitians directing policy based on metrics such as S&P500 growth, which isn’t lobbying by any definition of the word but has a strong case of definition of corruption.