• AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    2 hours ago

    To be fair even in europe we use cups and spoons while cooking, tho they are standardized to millilitres. Its mainly because when measuring from 1-10ml it would be really hard to give weight.

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      1 hour ago

      As a European, I rarely see “cups” or other imperial measurement except in recipes that were originally from the UK or the US. Spoons are common, yes, especially for the small volumes you refer to. But the overwhelming majority of measurements are a mix of 1) metric, 2) spoons, and 3) absolute quantities like “zest of 1 lemon” and don’t include any imperial measurements.

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        44 minutes ago

        I mean yeah thats true, its almost always a mix of the three but that also means we use cups and spoons just not exclusively.

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      1 hour ago

      To be fair even in europe we use cups and spoons while cooking

      You find those in grandma’s recipes. They aren’t actually used by anyone cooking seriously.

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        45 minutes ago

        Okay but i dont think people cooking seriously use it in the us or canada either. Also depends on what serious is. I think this mainly refers to people cooking just in general and in that case many recipies are gonna contain cups and spoons. Especially here in sweden for example.

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      No lol.

      I know 21 °C is confortable for a room, no idea if it is even survivable in a pool.

      I know I bake cookies at 350 °F, don’t even know if it boils water.

      As with most things, blame the Conservative government who stopped metrification a while ago.

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      2 hours ago

      As a Brit; take away thirty, divide by two. Really you’d only hear Fahrenheit temperatures on film or on TV programmes, so the accuracy loss is unimportant, and which can be mapped as:

      • under 60 - coat weather
      • 70s - t-shirt weather
      • 80s - t-shirt and shorts weather
      • 90s - dangerous heatwave that will make the news, have lots of fruity newspaper articles with pictures of people in their swims outside in the rivers, etc.
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              4 hours ago

              Something like this:

              (I’ve probably missed something, and also I don’t think that lbs for weight is correct, should be stone)

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                2 hours ago

                Yeah, weight still talked about in stone and lbs. But now the kids talk about theirs in kg, so there’s a need for a decision about age for metric/st’lbs”

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                  2 hours ago

                  I’m very much not a kid but I don’t understand stones at all, so my weight, which I rarely bother to measure anyway, I do in kgs.

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                Yes, weight should be in stone.

                “Are you in a pub drinking beer or cider?” is in imperial, although I think glasses are marked at the 568ml level. Spirits are sold in multiples of 25/35 ml.

                The significant difference in recipes is that we only measure liquids by volumes (which would be metric) - using cups and spoons for ingredients like flour would get you a funny look, those would be in grams which you would measure by weight.

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              2 hours ago

              Also, not forgetting the pint is 20oz in UK imperial, so the gallon is ~4.5L Not the 16oz USpint/3.8L US gallon

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    Over the last few years, I (an American) have gotten into hobbies (3d printing, coffee brewing, sciencey things, etc.) that pretty much require you to use metric over imperial because the community as a whole uses metric and it is straight up better for scaling. I have been enjoying that I can roughly convert between the two “languages” quickly and I have found I use a pattern that is essentially this meme, but not for a lack of reason; it’s based on whether the thing I’m dealing with has to do with me as a human or not.

    Things that directly affect me like temperature, weight, height, and descriptions/estimates in an abstract sense relative to me (how far something is from me, about me, with me, on me) is far easier to relate to in imperial. Room temp is 21C, but thinking of it has 72F feels more intuitive because 0 is fukkin cold and 100 is fukkin hot. And yeah F keeps going in both directions but idc if it’s 100F out or 120F out, at a certain point hot is hot and cold is cold. 32F/0C is freezing for water, but not to me; I’m chilly, (maybe? That’s t shirt weather after winter sometimes lol) but I’m not avoiding the outside until it really approaches 0F/-18C. The scale of /human/ feels better in imperial.

    Most other things that I need measurements for is going to be in metric. Big things (SPACE), scalability for recipes, measuring tiny things for printing/modeling these things just feel so much more precise using metric. Yes, precision is there in imperial too, we build houses pretty damn accurately, but I would argue that follows my affects me logic.

    Cooking is weird, idk these aren’t RULES.

    Imperial is just more of an approximation that feels very relatable and natural to my human monkey brain. That’s probably because it was the first thing I learned and then I specifically taught myself metric, but that’s the vibe I use and the fact that I can understand and convert pretty well between the two is what I assume knowing how to speak a second language feels. Which I cannot do. Because American education system. And I keep forgetting my Duolingo.

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      is far easier to relate to in imperial. Room temp is 21C, but thinking of it has 72F feels more intuitive because 0 is fukkin cold and 100 is fukkin hot.

      No, it’s easier because you’re more familiar with it. Regardless, I agree that 0 is somewhat cold and 100 is fucking hot.

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      7 hours ago

      I was taught metric basically alongside imperial. I remember a depiction of a ruler with inches and centimeters in my first grade math book. In high school, I would go outside in the morning and build a house in inches, then I’d go inside and do chemistry labs in milligrams.

      In flight school…some of this I’d like to wring some necks over…altitude and runway length is given in feet, temperature in centigrade, humidity as dewpoint in centigrade, pressures in inches of mercury, visibility in statute miles, overland distance in nautical miles, speed in knots, weight in pounds, gasoline volume in gallons. Oh, gasoline is sold by the gallon, jet-A is sold by the pound.

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    9 hours ago

    You can definitively simplify this flowchart further. Like on distance for example, what matters is only if it is height or related to work to be imperial and otherwise metric.

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      9 hours ago

      The chart skips the more frequent unit of distance used in Canada. Time. So could add that in instead.