Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the reelection of former President Trump would be the “end of democracy” in an interview released Saturday by The Guardian.

“It will be the end of democracy, functional democracy,” Sanders said in the interview.

The Vermont senator also said in the interview that he thinks that another round of Trump as the president will be a lot more extreme than the first.

“He’s made that clear,” Sanders said. “There’s a lot of personal bitterness, he’s a bitter man, having gone through four indictments, humiliated, he’s going to take it out on his enemies. We’ve got to explain to the American people what that means to them — what the collapse of American democracy will mean to all of us.”

Sanders’s words echo those President Biden made in a recent campaign speech during which he said that Trump’s return to the presidency would risk American democracy. The president highlighted the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol in an attempt to cement a point about Trump and other Republicans espousing a kind of extremism that was seen by the world on that day.

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    Currently, he can’t win. If he spends 10 months to get on the ballot in enough states, he will have burned time, energy and money getting on the ballot instead of campaigning meaning he still can’t win.

    What you need to decide is if you want Biden, or Trump. Of those two, neither is really close to West, but a Trump victory would mean you will never see a candidate like West ever again.

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      he can win if everyone who voted for Biden and everyone who voted for Trump votes for him. that’s just one scenario.

      you literally can’t have proof about the future and no matter how many times you repeat it, you won’t get any closer to knowing the future.

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        Which can’t happen as long as the only state that has him on the ballot is Alaska.

        Weirdly, he has a better chance in Alaska than anywhere else because of the ranked choice balloting, but he still won’t win there either.

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      11 months ago

      I have to say I am very uncomfortable with you moderating this community and also participating in spreading partisan propaganda.

      I feel like you are spreading misinformation, and that alone is a rule violation.

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        It’s not partisan propaganda to call out a fringe candidate for being a fringe candidate. As soon as West dropped out of the Green party, he became a fringe candidate.

        But I’ll make you a deal… Forget winning. If West breaks 10% in any state Presidential election, I’ll donate $1,000 to the candidate of your choice. $100 a point. Seems fair, right?

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          it may be true that he is regarded by some as a fringe candidate, but the best propaganda **is** true.

          you haven’t mollified me. i don’t know that there is anything you can say on the topic that would.

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      >a Trump victory would mean you will never see a candidate like West ever again.

      trump won in 2016, and cornel is running now.

      surely you can see why I don’t believe you

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            Oh, legally he wouldn’t be prevented from running, he’s still older than 35 and a natural born citizen, it’s just going to be super hard for any well respected member of academic intelligencia to run when they’re being held in a Trumpian gulag somewhere.

            See the Navalny situation in Russia, that’s what Trump DREAMS of doing here. His hero Putin does it so why not him?

            “we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left”

            He wants an American Cultural Revolution, and that will not end well for anyone to his left.

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              >See the Navalny situation in Russia, that’s what Trump DREAMS of doing here. His hero Putin does it so why not him?

              that’s nowhere on that site

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                “we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left”

                Do you not think West is part of the “radical Left”? Because I guarantee Trump thinks that. What do you think he means by “rescue the country”? It’s not going to be through good leadership.

                https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/14/politics/trump-extreme-rhetoric-analysis/index.html

                “We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country,” Trump said, using the demagogic technique of dehumanizing his opponents. He warned that “the real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it’s growing every day.”

                They’ve already started with their attacks on the Presidents of Harvard, Penn and MIT.

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                  >“We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country,” Trump said, using the demagogic technique of dehumanizing his opponents. He warned that “the real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it’s growing every day.”

                  yea. this is awful.

                  but 50 years of letting biden steer the country is what got us here.

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              i understand this is your position, but i strongly feel that you are not in a good position to moderate.

              you are fearmongering and making hyperbolic extrapolations.