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Wait, can you cite this?
From the article: “The United States switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979 and has long said it does not support a formal declaration of independence by Taiwan. It does, however, maintain unofficial relations with the self-governed island and remains its most important backer and arms supplier.”
It is my understanding that Taiwan does not officially consider itself separate from China either. Rather, they hold themselves to be the true democratic government of the mainland.
That’s correct, but also even more absurd of a position.
Another interesting thing of note about Taiwan is that it claims the land of what is currently Mongolia iirc.
I’ve always found it interesting how intransigent some of the East Asian nations are. You have the Nk/Sk conflict that is only in an armistice, no official peace treaty, then you have PRC/Taiwan–also in armistice. Then, there are are hundreds of instances of inflexibility on China’s part with internal minorities or border conflicts with India or Vietnam. Add to the the SCS and the Nine Dash Line. Japan also exhibits some of this inflexibility leading up to and after WW2, and the forced pacifism afterward, which has caused some self-inflicted problems with an armistice with Russia over the Kuril Islands.
I’ve always wondered if the tendency is cultural or something else that was learned over the millennia.
Probably because of the shit China would be forced to do in response.
Instead they just park a carrier group nearby as don’t say they are there to observe. We all know what will actually happen, but its not been said so China can save face.
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Word it the other way, “we’re the official country we’ve always been, but if those upstarts on the mainland want to secede then fine, we’ll let them”
Either way it’s just propaganda phrasing.
If that was true, the rampant sinophobia coming out of Washington would’ve been curtailed a LONG time ago. This is just white American deception, same as it ever was. Words are air when yankees speak them-- they’ll be right back to old tricks within 12 months.
US regime always speaks with a forked tongue.
Can’t ever trust an imperial puppet to speak honest.
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I learnt the term Tankie from Lemmy.
It comes from the 1950’s when a section of the ‘left’ who believed the Soviet Union was inherently good found themselves defending the Soviet invasion and forced annexation of Hungary. The soviets lead the invasion with Tanks, hence ‘Tankie’.
This support happened due to the simplistic belief that communism was inherently good, capitalism was bad and so the actions of a Communist country (like the Soviet Union) could never be bad if taken against a capitalist country is inherently good.
With the effective collapse of communist countries ‘tankies’ has switched to the people on the left that view western society as evil and any country which attempts to destroy or subvert western countries.
This typically manifests in a ‘tankie’ defending any action/supporting any view taken by China, Iran, Russia or North Korea and typically and typically amplifying anti USA rhetoric.
For example a Tankie will argue the Russian invasion and attempted genocide of Ukraine is justified and the USA is ‘evil’ for helping Ukraine defend itself.
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I’m stuck
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Taiwan doesn’t even officially support Taiwan independence. It would be rather unusual for a US President to say that before they do.
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Former occupiers? Who do you think make up the current majority ethnic group on the island?
Where do you think they came from?
When do you think they came over?
Do you think the indigenous people are the majority ethnic group? Do you think they have much power politically?
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Taiwan has all the best semiconductor stuff no way that America would give it up. This is just lip service. America has aircraft carriers near Taiwan at all times.
Don’t take America seriously when it comes to speech. Look at their actions and forget the words.
Ah you’re right, Taiwan wouldn’t be independent, because in the case of a Chinese attempt at occupation, the U.S. would swoop in and
occupy it themselves“liberate” them.Doubt it, the companies would just blow the chip plants. There are already chip fabrication plants being built all around the world because of the situation, but there’s basically no way TSMC is letting the CCP seize their fabs. They already have plans in place to destroy everything needed for fabrication, which is probably part of the reason China hasn’t invaded.
It’s the Kulaks slaughtering their livestock all over again.
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