• lime!@feddit.nu
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    5 days ago

    literally nobody thought that was the case. this is just holier-than-thou fartsmellery.

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      “Humans are destroying the planet” has been a great way of off-loading the social responsibility aspect from multi-billion dollar gas guzzling AI-generated farts factory to Grandma, who forgot to put out her recycling last week.

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        the prefix “some” is implicit there. but also, like, the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars. it’s just that the hundreds of container ships going around the world is a way bigger problem still.

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          the hundreds of millions of people commuting to work is a bigger problem than the thousands of people driving loud sports cars

          Sure. But it’s not the individual commuters who are setting national transportation policy.

          The folks driving the sports cars (and in the yachts and private jets), on the other hand…

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            that’s why i continued my post. to illustrate that the issue is not the individual within the system, but the system itself and the people who shape it.

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      I do agree that this is very rare take from climate activists. Those folks usually know their shit and are pretty radical.

      However, this line of reasoning is definitely a thing among laypersons. It has historical precedent that has its roots in Malthusian population theory.

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      are you sure about that? the “oh, humans are so evil, we’re destroying our planet! i wish all humans were dead” sentiment is extremely common

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        yeah that’s called ecofascism. it’s about as well thought through an ideology as anarchocapitalism.

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          i mean, it has its roots in how we discuss climate change. we call it “human-made”, so yes, people will jump to “humanity is to blame for climate change”. it’s a very logical leap, and not entirely wrong, even if it doesn’t tell the whole story (which part of humanity is responsible?)

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            i feel like that part comes naturally. it’s pretty easy to go from “i’m trying to help” to “no matter how much i help i can’t make a difference because the system makes it useless” to “who designed the system?”

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      Unfortunately the misanthropic sentiment is the foundation for a whole plethora of ecofascist tendencies, both intentionally and unintentionally so, that are shockingly common.

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      For climate activists it’s very unlikely, but there are people who believe Africans are the issue because of high birth rates, conveniently ignoring that richer countries do the most damage by far.