• RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Gentle reminder there’s a kid who got the power to blow himself up. Once. And he used it. Her perspective on the evolutionary trait is positive because she got a good roll of the dice while those around her got significantly less lucky. She is able to restrain her power unlike instant death touch girl, she’s able to use it multiple times unlike Bailey Hoskins, and her big struggle is she can’t go murder psycho? Again I really think her perspective is positive because she’s got significantly more control and usability out of her mutation.

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        The page doesn’t say how they figured out he had the power to do this. So- how did they figure out he had the power do to this?

        He was already at Xavier’s school before he blew himself up.

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          I believe there was either another mutant with the ability to, or they found a way to, detect mutant abilities. I saw a short video that recapped the comics so I unfortunately don’t know a lot of the details. The name of the comic is linked on the wiki though.

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        Once…well if it’s the same kid I remember reading about around the recent ‘Trial of Magneto’ then twice. He got resurrected as a zombie due to Wanda trying to resurrect the mutants that were died up on Genosha. She messed up big Zombie attack. He blew up again.

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          Couldn’t find anything that suggests he was resurrected or even made an appearance outside his specific comics but possibly! Really cruel fate for this kid though.

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            It’s the comics where horticulture appears and magik goes full demon. I definitely remember a guy who blows himself up completely as I only read genosha a couple months ago.

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      Ok but shouldn’t she just end this argument by grabbing Storm? Iirc, not only would she kill her or at least shut her up, she’d also take on her powers and get to be the weather goddess for awhile. Be nice to see what someone with her emotional damage did with that. Would it be “You get a tornado! You get a tornado! Everyone gets a tornado!” Or "I’m just gonna send the rain to the starving drought-stricken children in Africa and let the sun shine rainbows on the Pride parade, I wanna bring joy for once in my fucked-up life! "

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      but like she clearly doesn’t want to kill people, what you’re saying is effectively that people should be entirely determined by their genetics and have no say in the matter, which is… rather fucked up?

      it gets extra terrible when we remember that a significant chunk of humanity is born with evolutionary traits specifically evolved to help hunter-gatherer tribes, i don’t think people with ADHD and autism want to be compared to someone who kills everyone she touches…

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          She doesn’t want to kill people because society has taught her that killing is wrong.

          Yeah, something about perpetuating your own species seems like a logical reason to teach people that.

          Also, most people instinctively do not want to kill. That’s why military training has to cram the idea of “you have to kill people” down their trainees’ throats, and reportedly many still don’t pull the trigger when they see they will actually end up killing someone.

          Honestly, this makes me worry about you and what you’ve done or plan to do.

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                This is a really good question. Does her power affect the fetus? Is she doomed to always have a miscarriage? Could you solve the abortion issue by figuring out when hew power activates?

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                  Also she could find a suitable mate that is powerful enough to withstand her power.

                  Such as? And why would she have sex with that person just for that reason? Do you think she’s some sort of mating robot?

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              There’s a lot wrong with what you just said.

              1. It’s “Genus”.

              2. Homo is the genus, Sapiens is the species.

              3. Taxonomy works in retrospect. We don’t classify new species nor branches until they already exist. We can’t simply predict.

              4. A species is defined as a group that can interbreed and produce viable, fertile offspring. Mules for instance aren’t a distinct species because they are largely infertile. This is why we classify in retrospect.

              4.5. As a result it’s impossible to know if Rogue would even constitute a new species. She would need to be capable of having children who can have children with each other. And I don’t even want to get into how fucked up the implications of that are. It also means that if Rogue or her children could have viable offspring with ordinary humans, they cannot be different species.

              1. Even if she was a whole new species, Rogue would probably not be an entirely separate Genus either. She would likely be Homo still. The split for her species wouldn’t go that high up in taxonomy.

              2. An organism is not only obligated to preserve its specific traits. It’s obligated to preserve as many traits similar to its own as possible. This is why you’ll see family groups in nature work together. Uncles and aunts will nurture their nieces and nephews because a substantial portion of their own genetics lives on in their siblings’ progeny. They can still pass on some of their traits in that way.

              6.5. This is why some people think gay people exist, from an evolutionary perspective. A tribe with 12 adults and 5 children is able to better provide for their collective kids than a tribe of 12 adults and 6 children. Some of the gay people’s DNA is still in their nieces and nephews.

              1. Sometimes you don’t need to even share genetics with someone else. Completely unrelated cat moms will raise their litters together, because it raises their chance of survival overall.

              This is all basic college biology. You should be able to find it fairly easily.

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                  That’s the definition of a new species however. Until Rogue’s progeny can no longer have viable offspring with anyone except themselves, they aren’t a separate species, let alone genus. This is why dog breeds aren’t different species. They may be different, but they can still have children together that can go on to have other children.

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              i… i think you need to go watch crash course’s videos on genomics and evolution, this isn’t how evolution works.

              also nice personal insult there, definitely makes people want to listen to anything you have to say