Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

We Asked A.I. to Create the Joker. It Generated a Copyrighted Image.::Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    11 months ago

    You dress up and film it with your buddies and record it to a second gen tape lol?

    Which means it is not creating content. It is recording content. Which was my point.

    And yes training is fair use, it better be, I train my brain on images all the time.

    Please back this up. Your brain is not a computer. Furthermore, even if it was, someone else would be training it and you cannot legally train someone else on copyrighted material that you have not licensed, which is why schools have to license textbooks and a teacher that teaches from an unlicensed textbook can be sued. That’s the entire impetus for the Open Textbook Library. The Open Textbook Library would literally not need to exist if training material was not protected by copyright.

    You see, the problem here is that you keep claiming things that are the opposite of what these companies are getting sued for doing. And yet those suits aren’t getting laughed out of court. Doesn’t that tell you that maybe your ideas of how the law works here are wrong?

    I have been studying U.S. copyright and trademark law for over 15 years. How long have you been studying it?

    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      11·
      11 months ago

      You’re creating a film that wasn’t there before though? Recording is creation, I don’t know what you think cameras do or how video is made 🙄

      Recording is creation too and it can all be IP infringing at any stage, it’s all completely irrelevant how it was made in 99% of cases (exception being reverse engineering)

      Brain is absolutely just a computer lol. I look at images - I remember images, I’m influenced by images. Is that fair use? If so - so is AI, because that’s all it does.

      laughed out of court

      Like the lawsuit against Stable Diffusion & Midjourney? You know, the class action one that was dismissed precisely because the end work (output) was non-infringing, and training itself (and by extension, the tech) was not an infringement?

      https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/judge-pares-down-artists-ai-copyright-lawsuit-against-midjourney-stability-ai-2023-10-30/

      Educate yourself.

      Read up on the Sony vs United Studios too if you want to get in intro on law stuff. Start with Wikipedia. Then watch as this court case against OpenAI unfolds like I said it will.

      You keep banging on about the same few points that are all incorrect, proven time and time again, I have better things to do than to respond to this any further.

      I’ve been studying

      I guess you need to study it some more then, you don’t even know the basics.

      I swear you reddit refugee armchair experts need to go back.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Recording is creation

        Not according to the law. And if you disagree, find me the law that defines recording as creation.

        Like the lawsuit against Stable Diffusion & Midjourney? You know, the class action one that was dismissed precisely because the end work (output) was non-infringing, and training itself (and by extension, the tech) was not an infringement?

        One of many. One getting dismissed does not equal all getting dismissed.

        Sony vs United Studios

        Irrelevant to this subject. Original content was not at issue.

        I swear you reddit refugee armchair experts need to go back.

        This was literally directly connected to my own business for 15 years. One I ran legally. Because I made sure to study copyright and trademark law as much as possible so my company wouldn’t ever violate it.

        And since I’m a ‘refugee armchair expert,’ from where did you get your law degree? Feel free to answer unless you want to just insult me again.