I think the modern wave of feminism makes worse job of integrating men and explaning why patriarchal systems negatively affect them as well. But conservatives also became better at using modern media to get to young target audience.
I think it’s worthwhile here to distinguish between fourth wave feminism and pop feminism as it’s practiced by corporations and celebrities. Fourth wave feminism absolutely makes space for men in the movement, and the ideas of intersectionality are incredibly useful in untangling the male struggle. Corporate feminism pays lip service to these ideas, but is ultimately shallow and soulless. Unfortunately, corporate feminist aesthetics are far more prevalent in media and for men with heavily gendered social circles this may be the sum total of their exposure to the movement.
I think you make a fair point. But than again, as you write yourself - fourth wave feminism is dealing with complex issues offering complex indepth analysis. That might be a rought spot to get in, especially if on the surface it might seem that you are being blamed and your problems are not in focus.
I think the second part of your comment explains the first. It’s not that it’s worse. It’s that those who misunderstand it are amplified by people who want to see the movement hurt. Misandry is not feminism. But explain that to people who hate feminism—and the minority of people that confuse the two.
People are angry, so that’s how they fall into that trap. But it’s not the idea behind the movement.
I think the modern wave of feminism makes worse job of integrating men and explaning why patriarchal systems negatively affect them as well. But conservatives also became better at using modern media to get to young target audience.
I think it’s worthwhile here to distinguish between fourth wave feminism and pop feminism as it’s practiced by corporations and celebrities. Fourth wave feminism absolutely makes space for men in the movement, and the ideas of intersectionality are incredibly useful in untangling the male struggle. Corporate feminism pays lip service to these ideas, but is ultimately shallow and soulless. Unfortunately, corporate feminist aesthetics are far more prevalent in media and for men with heavily gendered social circles this may be the sum total of their exposure to the movement.
I think you make a fair point. But than again, as you write yourself - fourth wave feminism is dealing with complex issues offering complex indepth analysis. That might be a rought spot to get in, especially if on the surface it might seem that you are being blamed and your problems are not in focus.
I think the second part of your comment explains the first. It’s not that it’s worse. It’s that those who misunderstand it are amplified by people who want to see the movement hurt. Misandry is not feminism. But explain that to people who hate feminism—and the minority of people that confuse the two.
People are angry, so that’s how they fall into that trap. But it’s not the idea behind the movement.