• Sigmatics@lemmy.ca
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      We have? JetBrains never has stopped offering them.

      Who wouldn’t want an experience tailored to their main language? I certainly favor PyCharm over Ultimate

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        JetBrains is not representative of every editor / dev. Language servers mean I can use Emacs / Vim / VSCode / whatever else I want and have IDE features for whatever language I want.

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          Just as JetBrains is not representative of every dev, neither are LSPs. Some developers want a specialized IDE for their language(s), some want a highly customized editor with their language servers. As long as you efficiently produce code that works, who cares what other people use?

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          You can do that if you want to :

          Like many of our IDEs, the functionality of RustRover can be installed as a plugin in IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate.

          But if you only care about a particular language/stack you can use the dedicated IDE, it’s cheaper and the UX is optimized for your use case.

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            That’s a JetBrains plugin. It is just for JetBrains applications, and it closed source, right? Language servers are basically the metric system of IDEs. I can go from Emacs to Vim to VSCode and just use rust-analyzer for my IDE backend.

            I don’t understand the benefit of using JetBrains specific plugins that only work with JetBrains.

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              Because I (and many others) find their products to be far superior to the competition.

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                This. I’m using PyCharm with the new UI, and watching my colleagues struggle with VSCode is a bit painful to see. Not saying you can’t be productive with it, but why make your life harder than it needs to be?

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          I think there’s something for everyone. Some people want one editor for everything, some want one tailored to their language needs

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              Tech has an abundance of people who really need to be right in an argument. I’ve had this same argument with a developer at a client company of mine. Just couldn’t let it go when I said I was comfortable with the Jetbrains suite and used their language specific tooling instead of VSCode.

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          JetBrains users kind of live in their own weird bubble. Of the ones I’ve worked with, a decent number didn’t even know how to use git, they just relied on the built in vcs tools

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            Didn’t know how to use git CLI? Who cares. Git CLI is garbage anyway

            Edit: Ruffled some feathers lol. Seriously though, whoever named the functions… I want whatever they’re on lol

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      Yea, I was thinking the same. I have the JetBrains toolbox, and already have these installed:

      • Rider
      • RubyMine
      • PyCharm
      • GoLand
      • CLion

      I don’t really get why they need to make 10 different IDEs for every language, instead of just consolidating everything into a single UI/IDE.

      For pricing it doesn’t make that much sense, anyone that wants more than 2 JetBrains products is better off buying the entire toolbox.

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      This is likely just rebranded intellij with some rust specific plugins and some UI adjustments like pycharm, goland, etc.

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        All the JetBrains IDEs feel like basically the same platform with different plugins and tweaks.

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        Is this IDE going to make it impossible to install the Rust plugin in their other IDEs? Like is there anything preventing a user from continuing to use the Rust plugin and CLion after this has been released?

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          No. The plugin will continue to work, but JB will no longer release new features and bug fixes for it.

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          Almost all of these IDEs have language-specific features in them. PyCharm has Scientific tools (like SciView) for generating graphs using code and data. Rider features a pretty nice Windows Form builder for generating and creating GUIs for applications. Etc.

          I can’t imagine it being very useful or practical to unload all these language-specific plugins each time you open the program to write in a language that can’t utilize those features.

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            You build workspaces with vscode but the real magic is you never have to switch to visual studio or spend time configuring plugins for a new workspace each time you start a new project

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          What I am saying is that I don’t need an IDE to program stuff. I am fine with VSCode with extensions. With extensions, VSCode can be a multi(programming)language IDE. I don’t see the need to have different IDEs for different programming languages. They do have their benefits.